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Old February 9th, 2018, 10:11   #1
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Default 05 Auto Trans Soleniod testing

Anyone have an idea as to how to test the trans soleniods for function and a diagram for what each one does?
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Old February 9th, 2018, 10:21   #2
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Google search "ZF 5HP19" as that is the transmission that is in the car, plenty of info out there.

The solenoids are not high failure items. What problem are you trying to address?
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Old February 9th, 2018, 10:39   #3
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Car was running fine, then all of the sudden, had no gears whatsoever. Didnt go into limp mode or anything. Like in neutral. Dash indicator PRND432 colors inverted. Friend of mine came over and hooked up his (I think it is Vag Com) and it was reading trans fluid pressure and reading the gear selection as we moved it through when put in trip tronic/manual shifting. Showed no pressure going through the gears. TC was replaced by VW 30k miles ago. I pulled the pan, no chunks or slivers, cleaned everything, pulled the valve body, disassembled, cleaned and put back in. New fluid added, and all I get now (on my own OBDII reader) is P0730 Gear ratio incorrect and P0811 Clutch Slippage excessive.
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Unless I'm mistaken, even with no solenoids working / no computer at all, you'll still get a single forward gear and reverse. So if you get no drive at all in any range, there's something mechanically wrong in the trans.

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You would think it would be mechanical, but there was no evidence of a sudden/ catastrophic failure. That is what is so strange - everything was fine one second, then the next - no gears at all. That is what is puzzling. The only thing I can think of would be a Torque Converter failure.
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Old February 9th, 2018, 11:13   #6
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Unless I'm mistaken, even with no solenoids working / no computer at all, you'll still get a single forward gear and reverse. So if you get no drive at all in any range, there's something mechanically wrong in the trans.

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You need the transmission replaced, or rebuilt.

Solenoids will not do that. No TCM at all will still allow the car to move in fixed 4th gear, no regulation (so harsh engagement) and reverse.
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Old February 9th, 2018, 14:27   #8
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You need the transmission replaced, or rebuilt.

Solenoids will not do that. No TCM at all will still allow the car to move in fixed 4th gear, no regulation (so harsh engagement) and reverse.

I disconnected the TCM to see if anything would change, and the only change was that the shift indicator lights on the dash did not light up. Still no gears, forward or reverse. Any other suggestions?

One other observation- while filling the trans case, with the engine running, the pan on the trans remained cool, even when the engine oil pan was very warm to the touch. Like no fluid was circulating even in park.
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Sounds like the pump in the front of the trans let go. Time for a reman.
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Just for kicks i called the Steve white in greenville sc for a new tranny and tc....3800 and 1200. If you don't mind a 5 speed pm frans


Wait..you're in key largo....rip out that bhw and put it in a boat...hwy 1 trafffic sucks. Everyone drives like they are 20 min late to a weekend shift at the ER. Its supposed to be a chain of laid back islands not road rage keys.
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That's even more than VW list price @ 3819...it includes the torque converter!
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That's even more than VW list price @ 3819...it includes the torque converter!

He said he was not sure if it included tc or not but gave me the price just in case. Im sure he would have made a call to find out if he knew there was a chance for a sale.
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Can you tell if the torque converter is turning? Flex plate failure.
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You need the transmission replaced, or rebuilt..
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when in doubt... yank it out.

In other words... take oilhammers advice
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