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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old January 8th, 2018, 17:08   #31
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hx35, hy35, he351
whichever's laying around on craigslist with the smallest turbine housing

oh and a welder, an angle grinder and some old exhaust pipe.
Bolts right up.

ETA: oh right they make that cast iron T3 log manifold, so don't even need to weld anything other than maybe a downpipe if you don't feel like ditching the hood.
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Old January 9th, 2018, 16:39   #32
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I have an 1856 with a setup very similar to yours. See signature below.

Never felt laggy to me.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 21:36   #33
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Not a 100% PnP, but I would do what it takes to make either of these GTD1752vrk turbos work.
https://www.mecevo.com/parts/garrett...let_wheel.html

http://www.turbo-upgrade.com/produse...td1752vrk/131/

https://profiturbo.com/product/gtd17...ck-1-9-2-0tdi/

https://profiturbo.com/product/gtd17...ck-1-9-2-0tdi/

End of story IMO!
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Old January 12th, 2018, 07:38   #34
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Agree that newer gen VNT and ball bearings are better, but for 100% plug & play Xman turbo offers traditional 18/56 turbo for less $ (600 euro).

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topi...s-19tdi-pd130/





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Old January 12th, 2018, 10:59   #35
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I'll second what 3L3M3NT said. The GDT1752VRK is not plug and play but is well worth the little bit of work required to fit it. I've had one on my jetta along with .240 hflox nozzles and 11mm pump for close to a year now and love it. Much better spool and bottom end pull than stock. Not sure how much is due to the turbo and how much is the larger nozzles but these turbos are very nice for a daily driver while still capable of a respectable top end.
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Old January 19th, 2018, 23:10   #36
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I would buy a cheap gtb1756v of ebay and adapt the downpipe to suit with new flanges. Build a log manifold to clear the cylinder head and use a dark side developments oil feed and drain pipe. Very good low down spoil and enough headroom to support 200-220 Bhp. If you have the time the gtb2056vl from the 2.4d Volvo is even cheaper to buy and has the extra benefit of being water cooled as well- nice feature to give extra heat in the cabin on cold winters !
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Old January 28th, 2018, 18:00   #37
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Certainly not plug and play, but I'll second the GTD1752vrk simply because it'd be awesome to see someone post about it on an ALH! Not sure how much differently it might behave, but the 1752vrk is capable of full boost (2.1bar) by 2k rpm on a CR. 1752 can take a bit more EGT (1700F, same as stock GTD turbo on the ea288 family).
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Old January 29th, 2018, 13:24   #38
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Agreed on the 1752, I'm really trying not to buy one for my BEW but your boost logs sure aren't helping
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Old March 15th, 2018, 17:40   #39
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After paying close attention to all of your comments about turbo upgrade plus doing other researches i think im going to purchase GTD1752VRK turbo, there is a company the other side of the pond that sells them with the ALH manifold ready to go, ADV turbo is called, anybody knows if it is a good source to get it from? Now I need to see about how to get a source for the downpipe, has anyone here installed GTD on the ALH, maybe I can gather where to get the downpipe and air duct pipe, this is probably be the major hick up to this project.

Any more comments about turbo/downpipe or if you guys think i am making the right choice on turbo pls chime in, I really appriciate it
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Old March 15th, 2018, 20:24   #40
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Smart man on going with the GTD1752VRK.

Where are you located?

Since I'd be willing to bet there's a shop in your area that could weld you up a DP for your car. When you get the turbo or ask ADV for the outer diameter of the compressor inlet and buy the correct 90 degree reducer that goes to your current TIP(if it still fits) and if it doesn't, then again hopefully the shop that can do the DP can also weld you up a custom TIP that goes to your airbox.

You could always check the regional forums on here, VWVortex, and nowadays Facebook if there's anyone out there that could help you out with your project. It's pretty amazing what some guys will do for beer as long as you provide all the materials.
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Old June 9th, 2018, 12:44   #41
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Smart man on going with the GTD1752VRK.
Where are you located?
Since I'd be willing to bet there's a shop in your area that could weld you up a DP for your car. When you get the turbo or ask ADV for the outer diameter of the compressor inlet and buy the correct 90 degree reducer that goes to your current TIP(if it still fits) and if it doesn't, then again hopefully the shop that can do the DP can also weld you up a custom TIP that goes to your airbox.
You could always check the regional forums on here, VWVortex, and nowadays Facebook if there's anyone out there that could help you out with your project. It's pretty amazing what some guys will do for beer as long as you provide all the materials.

I ordered GTD1756VRK instead, it should be here within 1.5 week, from Europe,,2 moths ago after installing ALH bumped up engine from my golf to my jetta ,,, my little VNT15 decided to do a run away couple days ago I guess turbo could not handle all the air that it was breathing from ported head and turbo reached its demise , I believe I stopped My jetta in time and hopefully I did not create a havoc bending my rosten rods, or cracking my ASV pistons or messing up my valves, never had a run away so ill be learning on what to look for on damages,,, id be doing compression test and getting all the oil from cylinder and intercooler out, it is going to be interesting to see once I finish the build how the gtd1756vrk is going to behave, with this engine that I have in my Jetta now I was able to max the 17/22 few years back to 220hp back then engine was on my golf), hopefully I can get this turbo to at least 240-250 hp, engine got the bolts on, it is my daly driver so I got huge ported head dbilas cam, R520 inj, lift pump,, I got 10mm pump I am missing a 11mm pump, and I will be upgrading to RC6.5 on ecu. hopefully it will behave better than the 17/22
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Even though I have a BEW with a PD engine, I'll be watching to see how the GTD1756VRK performs for you.

Hopefully you caught it before anything major got damaged in your run away. I hate hearing of that happening to people and it scares me, since I'm running a race pipe on both of my cars.

Good luck with the new turbo and fingers crossed that everything is alright inside the engine.
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Even though I have a BEW with a PD engine, I'll be watching to see how the GTD1756VRK performs for you.
Hopefully you caught it before anything major got damaged in your run away. I hate hearing of that happening to people and it scares me, since I'm running a race pipe on both of my cars.
Good luck with the new turbo and fingers crossed that everything is alright inside the engine.

having a Egr in your car will not stop the run away, once oil passes egr or race pipe, turning off the engine with the key will not kill the engine, oil acts like fuel already in the cylinder, your only option is to put car in 5th gear and release the clutch to stop it.

I'll be posting results after i install 1756vrk hopefully spools quick as people in Europe report it does
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having a Egr in your car will not stop the run away, once oil passes egr or race pipe, turning off the engine with the key will not kill the engine, oil acts like fuel already in the cylinder, your only option is to put car in 5th gear and release the clutch to stop it.
I'll be posting results after i install 1756vrk hopefully spools quick as people in Europe report it does
anti shudder valve is just like the emergency air cutoff flap in the intake on a detroit
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anti shudder valve is just like the emergency air cutoff flap in the intake on a detroit

EGR did not stop my jetta, my 5th gear did, so race pipe and egr do not work when run away is in action
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