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Old January 3rd, 2018, 12:37   #1
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Arrow 5 percent of new cars are manual

Automatic is king

Many dealers don't stock 'em, because they are hard to sell

Many folks can not even drive a manual



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Old January 3rd, 2018, 14:34   #2
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The Europeans still know how to drive manuals. They don't drive huge, gas guzzling SUV's much either.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 16:00   #3
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Climate change, you would think, would have Americans driving smaller cars, but that ain't so, it seems. My view is Americans will drive the biggest car they can afford, be damned the emissions. I guess fuel is just too cheap these days!
Thats is the way I see it.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 19:34   #4
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Climate change, you would think, would have Americans driving smaller cars, but that ain't so, it seems. My view is Americans will drive the biggest car they can afford, be damned the emissions. I guess fuel is just too cheap these days!
Thats is the way I see it.
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your hobby (drags) add to emissions?
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 20:18   #5
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Climate change, you would think, would have Americans driving smaller cars, but that ain't so, it seems. My view is Americans will drive the biggest car they can afford, be damned the emissions. I guess fuel is just too cheap these days!
Thats is the way I see it.
I just left California today on Highway 5 going south. Try $3.79/gallon for 86 octane on for size. Diesel was over $4.00/gal. No one at the diesel pumps.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 20:20   #6
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Automatic is king
Many dealers don't stock 'em, because they are hard to sell
Many folks can not even drive a manual
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Women pick the cars in the US (well, maybe not VW drivers). Stands to reason that autos are picked along with big mirrors on the visors.
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Old January 4th, 2018, 04:19   #7
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Women pick the cars in the US (well, maybe not VW drivers). Stands to reason that autos are picked along with big mirrors on the visors.

Im doing my part to bring back the manual transmission. Each of my three daughters drive one. 5 spd 01 Beetle diesel, 6spd 15 Hyundai velsoter, 4spd 94 Toyota Tercel.

They like to row their own gears. One of the side benefits is better mpg, both of the gassers get mid 30s of course you all know what the beetle does.
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It is the trend, and consumers dictate the market. This goes way back. As an example I remember back in 2000 Toyota redesigned the Camry completely, nothing from the earlier model remained. They had three cars previous, one was the fully loaded one, then the middle one, and finally a strippo version with manual trans and rollup windows. They found that less than 5% of the sales were the strippo, so they dropped that model and saved money not having to engineer another car with roll up windows and and other things on a lesser profit model. the price of the two remaining models then was actually less.

I like the simplicity of manual cars too, but today's automatics really are nice. I am very happy with mt DSG and don't even miss the manual car I replaced.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 19:10   #9
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Anywhere but the USA and Canada people drive manuals. I.E Europe, Asia and Mexico. One reason is the better mileage but the main reason is a manual tranny car is cheaper to buy and to repair !!
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Old January 7th, 2018, 00:36   #10
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^ Whilst that's the perception, emissions targets are easier to achieve with autoboxes and so in the EU there's a greater uptake of automated manuals/DSGs in recent times, especially as they don't have the same mpg hit as previous autos.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 05:37   #11
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Women pick the cars in the US (well, maybe not VW drivers). Stands to reason that autos are picked along with big mirrors on the visors.
...my wife drives a manual, diesel Juke, what are we doing wrong?
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^ Whilst that's the perception, emissions targets are easier to achieve with autoboxes and so in the EU there's a greater uptake of automated manuals/DSGs in recent times, especially as they don't have the same mpg hit as previous autos.
They don't have the same mileage penalty as old automatics, but they are far less impressive in real life than they are in government test cycles. It's easy to optimize an automatic to do very well in a test cycle, which gives them an advantage there. Less so in the real world.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 06:57   #12
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...my wife drives a manual, diesel Juke, what are we doing wrong?

They don't have the same mileage penalty as old automatics, but they are far less impressive in real life than they are in government test cycles. It's easy to optimize an automatic to do very well in a test cycle, which gives them an advantage there. Less so in the real world.
Fully agree on both comments. Anyone who drives a stick knows learns how to adjust to circumstances. There was a huge traffic snarl for me this morning. Took me about 40 minutes to go my 7 miles to work. There's a fairly long stretch of downhill road where I just pop the truck out of gear and coast with the flow. Probably doesn't save me anything other than resting my left leg on the floor instead of the clutch. If I had an auto, I would have been riding the brakes most of that, like everyone else was.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 07:08   #13
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Fully agree on both comments. Anyone who drives a stick knows learns how to adjust to circumstances. There was a huge traffic snarl for me this morning. Took me about 40 minutes to go my 7 miles to work. There's a fairly long stretch of downhill road where I just pop the truck out of gear and coast with the flow. Probably doesn't save me anything other than resting my left leg on the floor instead of the clutch. If I had an auto, I would have been riding the brakes most of that, like everyone else was.
I have DSG (2015 Golf.)

IMO, I would need no (or little) brake on my car. Unless it was a large grade
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Old January 11th, 2018, 08:25   #14
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A driver in with an auto can adjust to those circumstances the same way.
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No problem here.....no downhill grades. Also, no more *work* for this guy!
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