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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old January 2nd, 2018, 13:07   #1
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I hope that this is the right place for this request. This is directed at our mostly Northern members that are used to this crappy cold weather we're having here on the East coast. Short of letting my Jetta idle all night (I did it once in Winter when my wife was rushed to the hospital, and I couldn't stay in her room), I'm looking for suggestions, advice, etc. to deal with this cold (zero degrees last night). Yesterday morning it was so cold that my oil alarm went off when I was starting it, and the oil hadn't gotten to the pressure switch yet because it was too cold. My New Years resolution, now, is to have a block heater installed this Summer, but since Winter just started, I'm open to suggestions for right now. Thanks
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 20:58   #2
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Intech,

It hit -2F in Lancaster, after waiting for the glow plug light to go out,
I started right up. Ran a bit rough for the first 30secs or so, and threw some white smoke, I'm suspicious that one of my cylinders is a bit low on compression. I am running 0-40W oil, the Castrol Titanium Edge, the "Euro" blend. VW spec, full synthetic made in Belgium. I feel running the 0W vs a 5W helps.

Gotta' work light? Stick it next to the oil filter and leave it on overnight, that should help keeping the oil a bit warmer. Any of
the winter diesel fuel additives should help.

Judging by the weather forecasts, we're in for continued cold.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 04:13   #3
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Thank you for your response, and info. The system wouldn't let me reply to you, so I did it this way. What you tell me, is pretty much all I've thought of, however, you're running 0-40 oil, and I'm at 5-40 Rotella T-6. I was thinking of changing to that, but I just changed the oil last week, so I decided against that for the moment I used to use a drop light for decades when I was running Beetles, but I gave that up when a bad bulb started a fire in my pool house, back in 2010, and burned it to the ground. Instead, I called Oliver, and he hooked me up with Terry up in MN, and he's sending me a Frost Heater today, and Oliver will install it as soon as I get it. After that, it can get as cold as it can get, and the car will be warm and heated up within minutes, and start like it's Summer
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 05:02   #4
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You'll love the Frostheater! Use your fan sparingly for the first part of your drive - I limit mine to 1 until the heat is starting to go up (using heated seats adds load and you warm the engine more quickly).

I have never had the oil warning go off in my 2006 BRM. I use Fuchs Titan 5W40...

I also recommend blocking the grill with either the pipe insulators or the ID front.

Leaving a window cracked allows heated/moist air to escape when you stop and you don't end up with frost on the inside...
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 05:33   #5
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You'll love the Frostheater! Use your fan sparingly for the first part of your drive - I limit mine to 1 until the heat is starting to go up (using heated seats adds load and you warm the engine more quickly).

I have never had the oil warning go off in my 2006 BRM. I use Fuchs Titan 5W40...

I also recommend blocking the grill with either the pipe insulators or the ID front.

Leaving a window cracked allows heated/moist air to escape when you stop and you don't end up with frost on the inside...
When Terry called me last night, we spoke for about 20 minutes, and he mentioned pretty much all you said. He also added that there are instruction with the kit. I'm really looking forward to it. If I had known about this before, I would have had one a long time ago.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 06:40   #6
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You have been here as long as I have and never heard of the Frost Heaters? Wow! You need to expand your forum categories some. Good luck with the heater!
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 07:17   #7
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Second the Frostheater advice - I have one in my BHW passat, and it will raise the coolant temps 60 or so degrees in 2 hours use.

Careful if you do put the unit on a timer - if the FrostHeater is powered 1/2 hour before departure, it will warm up the coolant near the coolant temp sensor, but will not have fully warmed the block yet - it can actually make the engine much harder to start as the ECU will "think" that the engine is much warmer than it actually is.

I set my timer to go an about 2.5 hours prior to the time I plan to commute each morning.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 13:42   #8
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You have been here as long as I have and never heard of the Frost Heaters? Wow! You need to expand your forum categories some. Good luck with the heater!
I never heard of them, because, until now, I never had need of them, so I never researched them. I've had five diesels in that time frame, and NEVER had a starting issue until now. I will install it the day after it arrives. From what I've learned, I don't expect anything but good from the installation
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 13:48   #9
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No offense intended. It is just they have been pretty widely discussed over the years I thought anyone being around here that long would have at least heard of them. I am in Texas and really have no need at all for one but know of them from reading here. I hesitated to mention them as I thought it would be dumb to even bring it up as they are pretty well known. They are reported to do very well for people. You will still lose heat while idling though in the very cold.
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No offense intended. It is just they have been pretty widely discussed over the years I thought anyone being around here that long would have at least heard of them. I am in Texas and really have no need at all for one but know of them from reading here. I hesitated to mention them as I thought it would be dumb to even bring it up as they are pretty well known. They are reported to do very well for people. You will still lose heat while idling though in the very cold.
A lot of people were surprised that I hadn't heard of them, but when something isn't an issue with you, you tend to not pay attention to it
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Old January 6th, 2018, 18:16   #11
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I love my Frost Heater http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...&postcount=789
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What weight of oil are you using? Synthetic 5w40 should be just fine. As mentioned, blocking the rad and any form of engine preheater will make a huge difference.
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Old January 9th, 2018, 06:12   #13
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What weight of oil are you using? Synthetic 5w40 should be just fine. As mentioned, blocking the rad and any form of engine preheater will make a huge difference.
Rotella T-6 since new 5W-40, and I never had that oil alarm come up before on any of my diesels, in fact the 89' always started almost instantly even at below freezing temps. However, now both my cars will get Frost Heaters
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Old January 9th, 2018, 20:12   #14
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Like the original post, I've been having issues with starting my car in the cold weather. My question is concerning extended warranties. I had the emission recall fixed on my 2009 tdi a few months back and was wondering if a Frost Heater is installed would that void any of the warranty form VW.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 08:16   #15
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I agree with " Lightflyer1".
I have absolutely no need for a frostheater like that since I spend winters in Mexico since 2001. Though quite often after I have driven through Texas I see on the news that Dallas had snow and a cold spell. But I know/knew of a frost heater because I read threads just for the solutions people come up with for different problems regardless whether they apply to me or not. Sometimes in a totally unrelated thread someone offers up a tip for something which may be of interest.

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