meerschm
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- Apr 18, 2009
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- Fairfax county VA
- TDI
- 2009 Jetta wagon DSG 08/08 205k buyback 1/8/18; replaced with 2017 Golf Wagon 4mo 1.8l CXBB
my tpms is getting old and flaky gave this a shot, but stumbled along the wayI haven't done much driving until today, but here was my experience with the indirect TPMS settings:
So, I think this is an indication that an '09 TDI has the proper ABS controller logic to perform indirect tire pressure monitoring, just like the 2011 models. I guess I will never have the experience of buying replacement sensors when my old ones die
- TPMS light is samong the seferal lights that briefly flash upon turning key to 'on' position. Disappears after about a second.
- Drove about 50 miles with equally inflated, sensorless tires. No TPMS light or other warnings on dash
- Deflated one of the rear tires slightly, by about 8% (38 -> 35). Drove about 5 miles. No warning light.
- Deflated same tire by about 20% of original value (38 -> 31). TPMS warning light appeared after about a mile.
- Inflated rear tire to original value. Drove about 2 miles home. TPMS warning light was still steady on.
- Performed TPMS reset in ABS module (basic settings to 042). Light want away
- Drove about 120 miles. Light remained off.
Here is what I did:
When I deflated the rear tire, a code was thrown by the ABS unit when low pressure was detected:
- Disable hardware TPMS in the central convenience controller. Using the long coding helper, check bit 5 of byte 17 Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPMS - PR-7K3/7K4/7K5 not installed/inactive
- Disable TPMS in the CAN bus controller. Using the long coding helper, un-check bit 0 of byte 3 Tire Pressure Monitoring.
- Enable indirect TPMS in the ABS controller. Using the long coding helper, check bit 2 of byte 16 Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPMS/PR-7K6) installed
- Reset the indirect TPMS system by applying basic settings to block 042 of the ABS controller.
Code:Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD HW: 1K0 907 379 AD Component: ESP MK60EC1 H35 0106 Revision: 00H35001 Coding: 113B600D49240000881206EB922200423400 Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000 VCID: 74EC37F66EC7 1 Fault Found: 02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100010 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 230 Mileage: 63668 km Time Indication: 0 Freeze Frame: Count: 0 Count: 32768 Count: 4608 Count: 397 Count: 51255 Count: 0 Count: 0
* If you forget to disable TPMS in the Central Convenience module, this is what happens:
There is one catch (later found out to be due to TPMS still activated in Central Convenience) - when scanning for fault codes, it seems that the CAN bus and the hardware-based TPMS unit throw faults:
From the CAN bus:
From the TPMS:Code:01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 000 - -
Neither of these seem to cause an idiot light, or interfere with the functioning of the indirect TPMS reporting.Code:01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure 004 - No Signal/Communication
I got as far with the VCDS as the long coding helper, found bit 5 of byte 17 in central convenience controller, but it will not let me proceed with "do it" seems to want some kind of importer id or authorization code. what am I missing?