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VW MKVI-A6 Golf family including Jetta SportWagen (~ 2010+) Discussions area for A6/MkVI (2010+) Golf and Golf Wagons (Jetta Sportwagon in the USA).

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Old September 4th, 2012, 14:38   #1
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Does this mean a new TDI or possibly GTD in the US?
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Old September 4th, 2012, 15:21   #2
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I thought they were discontinuing the Shark Blue Metallic? (Which is the coolest color! )



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We have no technical details yet, but we don't expect many powertrain changes from the sixth generation car that is currently on sale. That means that the 2.5 liter 5-cylinder engine should make an appearance, along with a diesel
Yuck, I hoped VW would come to their senses and stop sticking us with that pile of garbage 2.5L they put in everything. A 1.4 or 1.8 TSI would be a much better base engine giving it some much needed efficiency.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 16:48   #3
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Europe gets all kinds of colors we don't get.

For example, I went into their configuator for a Mk6 TDI

The color options are as follows:

Stock - Candy White

"Special Colors"
Black - 235€
Tornado Red - 135€

Metallic - All 520€

Glacier Blue
Reflex Silver
Shadow Blue
United Gray
Silver Leaf

"Pearl Effect" - 520€
Graphite Blue
Deep Black

For the rest of the colors, the metallics and pearls are 2,090€, and the others are 1,680€

"Blue Spectrum"

Blue
Blue Spirit Pearl
Dark Violet Pearl
Deep Blue Pearl
Inky Blue Pearl
Light Blue
Mercato Blue Metallic
Moonlight Blue
Moonlight Blue Pearl
Raven Blue Pearl
Silver Blue Metallic
Techno Blue Pearl
Ultramarine
Violet Touch Pearl

"Yellow Spectrum"
Yellow
Gorse Yellow

"Gray/Silver Spectrum"
Platinum Gray Metallic
Silver Gray Metallic
Urban Gray Metallic
Pewter Metallic

"Green Spectrum"

Bright Green Pearl
Cosmic Green Metallic
Mint Green
Racing Green
Reseda Green

"Red Spectrum"

Red 2000
Flash Red
Dark Burgandy Pearl

Kinda puts our selection to shame, doesn't it?

They also get the choice of beige or black cloth, or 5 different leather colors.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 18:42   #4
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Looks very evolutionary (as expected) I just hope there is not major decontenting like the MKVI Jetta
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Old September 4th, 2012, 18:45   #5
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Wasn't that just a US/North American thing?

Aren't other-market Jetta's still full blooded?

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In Europe, the Jetta maintains its luxurious small saloon status. The engine range comprise of the 1.2 TSI, 1.4 TSI (122 or 160 PS), 2.0 TSI, 1.6 TDI and 2.0 TDI engines.[113] The European version will differ in some respects, particularly in having multi-link suspension at the rear.[117] The European version will also incorporate soft-touch plastics on most of the dashboard (not the doors for this generation), and the rear seat center air vents have been restored.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 19:08   #6
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nothing i've read about this specific car has details about what's coming to america. when that happens i will be more interested. if the gas companies/lobbyist possibly play a role in which models come to the u.s., then those great european models will probably never make it here.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 19:08   #7
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I thought they were discontinuing the Shark Blue Metallic? (Which is the coolest color! )



Yuck, I hoped VW would come to their senses and stop sticking us with that pile of garbage 2.5L they put in everything. A 1.4 or 1.8 TSI would be a much better base engine giving it some much needed efficiency.
Powertrains are changing. The current powertrains aren't part of the MQB platform structure. Doesn't mean they can't be made to fit, but the whole thing with MQB was to keep things interchangeable and that includes modular engine layouts.

The 1.4 TSI is a new design, not the same as the previous 1.4 TSI, to use the new modular engine layout. I doubt we'll see it in North America. (Jetta hybrid will use it but I've heard it will be the "old" 1.4 TSI, not the new one with cylinder de-activation ... too bad.)

The 1.6 and 2.0 TDI engines are also new designs using the new modular layout. All of the turbocharged engines, gas or diesel, are using air-to-liquid intercoolers, and that pretty much precludes the use of the older engine designs (with air-to-air intercoolers) unless they want to do something special to accommodate them, which would defeat the whole purpose of the MQB modular layout.

The 2.5 is supposed to be going away, to be replaced with the new EA888 1.8 TSI, and this has already been announced and it's in the same timeframe as the planned US introduction of the Golf 7, so it would stand to reason that the 2.5 goes away and the new 1.8 TSI shows up.

I'm pretty sure we'll see the 1.8 TSI as the base engine, the new 2.0 TDI available, and the 2.0 TSI as the new GTI engine.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 19:11   #8
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Looks very evolutionary (as expected) I just hope there is not major decontenting like the MKVI Jetta
I agree... looks are evolutionary and i think nicely done... but overall I believe the car will actually be quite revolutionary as the first VW to use the MQB platform. Slightly longer and wider and almost an inch lower... yet lighter by anywhere from 50-220 lbs (depending on which spy report you read).

Most of the reports I've read indicate US engine choices will be the new EA288 TDI variation (that is supposed to produce ~190hp / ~280 lb-ft) and a turbo charged 4 cylinder gasser to replace the current 2.5 liter. That's all still to be seen when VW finally fully unveils at the Paris show. GTI would get something bigger/faster.

Car and Driver reported back in march that they believe the mkvii GTD could be headed to the US at some point. Will be interesting to see if that fairy tale comes true.

As far as decontenting goes... Everything I've read indicates that's not happening... the golf being a "world car" (I.e., not a US only spec) and the fact that sales volumes of golfs are low here that a special US only version likely doesn't make sense (Jetta outsells the Golf by a factor of about 10:1 last I checked).
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Old September 4th, 2012, 19:16   #9
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I agree... looks are evolutionary and i think nicely done... but overall I believe the car will actually be quite revolutionary as the first VW to use the MQB platform. Slightly longer and wider and almost an inch lower... yet lighter by anywhere from 50-220 lbs (depending on which spy report you read).
Most of the reports I've read indicate US engine choices will be the new EA288 TDI variation (that is supposed to produce ~190hp / ~280 lb-ft) and a turbo charged 4 cylinder gasser to replace the current 2.5 liter. That's all still to be seen when VW finally fully unveils at the Paris show. GTI would get something bigger/faster.
Car and Driver reported back in march that they believe the mkvii GTD could be headed to the US at some point. Will be interesting to see if that fairy tale comes true.
As far as decontenting goes... Everything I've read indicates that's not happening... the golf being a "world car" (I.e., not a US only spec) and the fact that sales volumes of golfs are low here that a special US only version likely doesn't make sense (Jetta outsells the Golf by a factor of about 10:1 last I checked).
I'm hoping you are correct.
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I wish somebody had a 2-dr shot. I much prefer the 2d to the 4d Mk6.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 20:25   #11
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some good articles:

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/04/s...ed-in-germany/

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...ARIS/120909959
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Old September 5th, 2012, 07:21   #12
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Ehhhhhhhhh Im not sure if I like it or not....
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Like I've said before, I'm giving this probably 2 model years before consideration.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 11:19   #14
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Yea, I wounder what issues the new TDI engines will have. It seems like every generation of TDI engine has it's own problems.
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Yea, I wounder what issues the new TDI engines will have. It seems like every generation of TDI engine has it's own problems.
Yet... We keep buying and driving them. We are a crazy bunch!

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