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Old June 10th, 2012, 11:00   #5086
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Yes I am home with MityVac. Busy for a while doing window boxes for my Georgia Peach but I am here. Text me I sent you my phone number in a PM so we can meet today if you want just name the place.
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Old June 10th, 2012, 11:12   #5087
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Yes I am home with MityVac. Busy for a while doing window boxes for my Georgia Peach but I am here. Text me I sent you my phone number in a PM so we can meet today if you want just name the place.
Sent you a txt message.
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Old June 10th, 2012, 16:22   #5088
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Borrowed a MityVac. FF is fuel. Pumped in over 1 can of Diesel Purge into the IP with the mightly vac. Cranked. Sounded more promising that before, got close to 400 RPM. Let it sit. Cranked a minute later same thing 300-400 RPM but would not turn over.

Loosened Inj #3 a 1/2 turn and cranked. Diesel just bubbled out, not sprayed like I wouldve expected.

Diagnosis: IP shot? If So what does someone (like GG) charge to replace that?
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Old June 10th, 2012, 16:28   #5089
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TR- Is the vibration only felt during accel? If you were in the thick of tte vibration and let off the throttlewould it go away?
I don't think so. Since the transmission was just rebuilt last week, is there anything in the transmission that rotates as the same speed as the engine, or at a fixed ratio to engine speed regardless of which gear is selected?

I don't think it is a vibration in the exhaust system, and 99% sure it is not engine related. But I am concerned and would appreciate a first, second, and third opinion.
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Old June 10th, 2012, 17:25   #5090
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Well the input shaft spins at engine rpm.

I really have a hard time trusting cheap axles. I would suspect them or possible mount misalignment before I would suspect an internal trans issue.
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Old June 10th, 2012, 18:09   #5091
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Well the input shaft spins at engine rpm.
I really have a hard time trusting cheap axles. I would suspect them or possible mount misalignment before I would suspect an internal trans issue.
Ahhh... but this "vibration" happens at a certain engine speed, not vehicle speed.
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Old June 10th, 2012, 20:20   #5092
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Put Ohm meter on 200, put it on the fuel shut off solenoid. 8.7 at rest.

Additionally I jumped it from the battery pos term with a wire, clicks on and off. Sounds like its clicks on and off when the cranking the ignition as well
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Old June 10th, 2012, 21:44   #5093
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Lordy I hope you're not out working in the rain...
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Old June 10th, 2012, 22:00   #5094
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Lordy I hope you're not out working in the rain...
i only do electrical work outside when it rains.

Cant say i dont secretly hope that tree out front falls on my car during this storm. case closed
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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:13   #5095
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TB.

Stupid question, Do you have voltage at the shut off solenoid?
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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:28   #5096
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TB.

Stupid question, Do you have voltage at the shut off solenoid?
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Put Ohm meter on 200, put it on the fuel shut off solenoid. 8.7 at rest.

Additionally I jumped it from the battery pos term with a wire, clicks on and off. Sounds like its clicks on and off when the cranking the ignition as well
So is that how you test it? Set the meter to the 200 ohm setting, red on solenoid, black on something unpainted to ground it.....? if so its 8.1, 8.3, 8.7 which isnt 12 when the car key is in the run setting. If thats not how i test, let me know
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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:39   #5097
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Put Ohm meter on 200, put it on the fuel shut off solenoid. 8.7 at rest.

Additionally I jumped it from the battery pos term with a wire, clicks on and off. Sounds like its clicks on and off when the cranking the ignition as well
From the Bentley Manual:

Clean the area around the fuel shut-off valve and remove the valve, o-grin, spring, and plunger. Some fuel will come out.

Clean and inspect solenoid plunger and seat. Slide plunger into the valve and check for free movement. If plunger does not move freely replace valve assembly.

Carefully check for dirt and metal particles in valve bore of injection pump. The slightest amount of debris will cause malfunctions.

Reinstall torque to 30 ft-lb.

As you had to apply vacuum for a long time to get fuel into the pump that says the pump was empty. So why the pump has no fuel in it is the question we are trying to answer here.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 08:16   #5098
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From the Bentley Manual:

Clean the area around the fuel shut-off valve and remove the valve, o-grin, spring, and plunger. Some fuel will come out.

Clean and inspect solenoid plunger and seat. Slide plunger into the valve and check for free movement. If plunger does not move freely replace valve assembly.

Carefully check for dirt and metal particles in valve bore of injection pump. The slightest amount of debris will cause malfunctions.

Reinstall torque to 30 ft-lb.

As you had to apply vacuum for a long time to get fuel into the pump that says the pump was empty. So why the pump has no fuel in it is the question we are trying to answer here.
Ok I will try that. Probably wont get free time with the wife working nights and 2 kids and it being in the street (i.e. no light where it is after 8 pm) until wednesday. If i can get them in bed by 7 either tonight or tomorrow I might be able to squeeze an hour max...sucks.

After about 20 minutes when i texted you i reinspected all the hoses from the FF to IP i had taken off in the last couple days. The intake into the IP from the FF (which was connected to Dpurge) was not sitting fully on the connector. I had removed it on sat to just hook up longer hoses i had laying around that fit on the IP nipples. Once we found that and connected it fully (after i texted you those 2 or 3 times about "air" problems or whatever)....it took maybe 5-10 minutes to get that 1 can + of DPurge into the IP and get a nice flow of it coming out the otherside with practically no bubbles.

Since Im running out of time....i might have to do the unthinkable and haul it to a stealership. blasphomy I know, but there doesnt seem to be any diesel mechanics or shops close to here according to this forums list that anyone trusts and im not going to call one out of the phonebook I dont know. (east side of St. Paul for refence to everyone). (I see there was a thread 10+ years ago talking about Leightons or Diesel & Import Auto / Truck Service.....anyone use them in the 10+ years since this thread was created? http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=31743)
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Old June 11th, 2012, 09:14   #5099
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Toastblows, have you pulled your IP case pressure relief valve out and checked make sure internals haven't fall out? Here is link to what I'm referring to http://pics.tdiclub.com/data/500/VE_...tor_Repair.pdf

If you want give a call sometime this evening and tell me bit more detailed on whats going on then will see if we can figure out whats happening.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 09:19   #5100
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Ahhh... but this "vibration" happens at a certain engine speed, not vehicle speed.
Hehe, i warned you about those aftermarket axles. BTW I was right that he (Chad) is probably using the same aftermarket axles as everybody else, since there are only couple options available.

Anyway this vibration thing does it happens at any given speed or gear at certain RPM's? share bit more details on what exactly happening.
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