| VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here. |
May 7th, 2012, 23:53
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Tyler, Texas
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Would be leary of the miles + automatic.
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2004 Jetta TDI Auto, 98K. mufflerectomy 34/49mpg low/high mpg. 2004 Jetta TDI 5 speed 170K. 1985 Ford F250 6.9 IDI/4 speed 4x4 RCLB ATS wastegated turbo, ARP studs, ISSPRO gauges, new paint.
 
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May 8th, 2012, 00:09
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Newbie
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Even though this is a TDI forums anyone have any thoughts on the jetta?
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May 8th, 2012, 04:56
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: S. Portland, Maine
Fuel Economy: Better than a gas engine
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If you're going to buy an early 2000s TDI with the automatic, make sure you have about $4000 to $5000 saved up to replace the automatic when it fails. You might get lucky and it'll be fine, but they're known to be POS transmissions on here. My wife's 2000 Jetta has an 01M (automatic) and it was apparently replaced by the previous owner at about 90000 miles. We now have about 172000 on it but that's probably due to regular fluid changes.
But the bottom line is that the 4 speed automatics are not high quality transmissions so you're better off to get a manual transmission.
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2012 Candy White Golf wagon mit DSG und aspherical mirrors (aka Waggy)
2000 Tornado red Jetta mit 01M (aka Torquette) - the wife's
2002 Candy White Golf (aka Honky) - Sold 12/16/2012
2003 Black Jetta (aka Torquey) - Sold on 10/6/2011
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May 8th, 2012, 05:09
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Barrie, Ont, Canada
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Absolutely not... that O1M tranny is a ticking timebomb!
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May 8th, 2012, 11:34
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Conkud, New Hampshiyuh, USA
Fuel Economy: pretty freakin' good.
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They are both slushboxes. So I am assuming you are not interested in selecting your own gears.
Given that, the golf might be the better choice, if and only if the transaxle has been recently replaced and you have documentation to prove it.
Otherwise, for the same money, the Jetta is worth consideration as it has half the miles.
Now: do you need a TDI or will a gasser work best for you?
If your commute is relatively short, and you are wondering, then go for the gasser. If you are ready to buy wrenches you don't already own, and you like the idea of learning about your car and doing all your own maintenance, then by all means, get the Golf (but for those miles I'd not be interested in paying more than $3500 without the above mentioned documents).
You will also be needing to do more searching and reading as to what to expect when you buy a used car. You can almost always safely assume that the owner isn't being 100% upfront about everything, and that major maintenance is now due, nearly due, or overdue. That means fun little jobs like the timing belt need doing now. Plan for expenses like that. If they aren't in your budget, go look for a bicycle.
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May 8th, 2012, 11:58
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Catskill mountains, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donniegood
Even though this is a TDI forums anyone have any thoughts on the jetta?
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Both cars have the infamous 01M so I would steer clear of both of them unless you are ready to start replacing transmissions.
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99.5 Jetta TDI; DLC1019 nozzles, G60/VR6, Malone Econo tune, EGR delete, ASR/EDL, bilstein TCs/VR6 wagon springs(1.5in lift),rally armor mud flaps. 305K miles and climbing. 
04 Jetta TDI . MFA cluster, e-codes, reverse light mod, LED trunk light. 157K miles(still a baby ).
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May 8th, 2012, 13:06
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Newbie
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Well thank you all. I had a mkIII jetta with manual so thats no big deal but I only found one around here so I am going to check it out this week
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May 8th, 2012, 13:46
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Wi
Fuel Economy: 45mpg Average, Shooting for 50
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I passed on a lot of tdi's because they were autos.
YOu can get an auto for lets say average of $1000 cheaper up front, but at 200k miles, that 1000 discount will likely cost you another 2500-3000 for a new tranny in the future
They go cheaper because
A: not as good of fuel economy as a manual.
B: the TDI guru's know they will die and will pass on the cars so there is far less demand from the diehard TDI crowd.
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