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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:45   #16
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Originally Posted by DnA Diesel View Post
The OM642 re-design is certainly something to alter M-B's place in the diesel world, but it doesn't seem to go much beyond that tweak.

By "safe", I meant a subjective term meaning currently trending towards having a diesel in (most) every vehicle, but without the higher-power trends that BMW is pursuing (particularly with the 50d tri-turbo), nor with the economy emphasis that VAG is placing on 2.0L CR engines. The result is the availability of a diesel option in nearly all of M-B's chassis, but with the C-series as the exception. A C250 (or C350) Bluetec would be a great car, but I don't think we'll see a smaller 4-banger oil burner in a Benz for some time to come. That said, I think BMW has also lost momentum on any gains it had from making a re-entrance to the diesel world after the last effort in the 80's with the 524tds...the X5 is selling well, but a wider range of diesel offerings, including a smaller 4, like what I believe M-B should be offering, would be readily accepted, I believe.


MB is bringing the 2.1/2.2L turbo-diesel GLK to the States this fall - my
order is placed with the dealer. I was hoping MB would bring the 3.5L V-6 CDI over, but this would kick its gasser brother arse.

I was told the A-class and maybe the B-class MIGHT also come over
at a later date - not holding my breath on this comment though.

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Old May 7th, 2012, 22:17   #17
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Originally Posted by DnA Diesel View Post
Boost, and lots of it . . . creating very high V.E.!

Scaled down to a 2.1L equivalent, 2.1L of BMW's 3.0L 50d would produce 382 ft-lbs, a bit more than the OM651 -- that said, M-B's little 2.1 is still pretty impressive!

Especially when we see that the new 2.1 engine produces the same 369 ft/lb torque
as does my 2005 W-211 3.222 straight six older model.
I wonder if it will be as quick as my old sedan?

2010 JSW. Reflex Silver/Titan Interior. A TDI with DSG.
Dynoed 132 HP, 230 ft/lb torque at the wheels.
Traded the VW for a Mercedes Benz W-211 E-320 CDI 12-17-2011.
Dynoed 12-01-12 211 HP, 386 ft/lb torque at the wheels.
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Compare our previous VW TDI JSW DSG Fuelly : http://www.fuelly.com/driver/derrelhgreen/Jetta
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Old May 10th, 2012, 05:11   #18
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I may actually give the GLK a look, especially if BMW isn't going to do an X3 (or even X1) in diesel, and VW doesn't bring a diesel Tig to market...
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