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Old April 10th, 2012, 01:06   #1
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Default VCDS doesnt display G581 Turbo Actuator Position Sensor Parameter

So im running the VCDS 11.11.3 and I cannot find the parameter that reads the output of the turbo actuator position sensor. You can see the link that seems to best describe my problems below:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=326017

I need to check out the output of this but cant find where to look!!! The directions in the post http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=48 describe going to measuring block 120 but there is no block 120....
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Old April 10th, 2012, 06:18   #2
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Please post a complete AutoScan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCBt6d42-Fc
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Old April 10th, 2012, 08:21   #3
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Please keep in mind that I have a couple of things disconnected. I need to be able to observe a real time readout of the voltage from the turbo vane position sensor while I actuate it.



VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 (x64)
Data version: 20120401

Tuesday,10,April,2012,08:19:57:56012

Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: 3VWST81K86M681946 Mileage: 217730km/135291miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AB HW: 028 101 223 8
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG 7550
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2640551
Coding: 0050071
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 63EB633DA24E991

2 Faults Found:
000305 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1
P0131 - 000 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 217734 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 21:53:31

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2478 /min
Speed: 40.0 km/h
Load: 64.3 %
Mass Air / Rev.: 260.0 mg/str
(no units): 0.20
(no units): 0.0
Bin. Bits: 10001001

001027 - EGR Valve (N18)
P0403 - 000 - Malfunction - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 217737 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 22:13:55

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2142 /min
Speed: 78.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 0.0 %
Voltage: 14.36 V
Mass Air / Rev.: 450.0 mg/str
Duty Cycle: 0.0 %
Bin. Bits: 00000000

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Revision: 00T12001
Coding: 0021122
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 40A18CB11398E29

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 DL
Component: Climatic PQ35 090 0505
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 71C7197568B23B1

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D HW: 3C0 937 049 D
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000000154135
Coding: 14018E234004180000140000001400000008730B5C
Shop #: WSC 19303 444 00228
VCID: 2A75CE1985E4089

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0402
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 19303

2 Faults Found:
00987 - Lamp for Brake Light; Left (M9)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 168
Mileage: 217737 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 12.70 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00988 - Lamp for Brake Light; Right (M10)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 168
Mileage: 217737 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 13.20 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 E HW: 8E0 035 593 E
Component: SDAR XM H03 0080
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7E0033059
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B7BCB1D8A1E111

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 154
Mileage: 159925 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:11:43

02788 - Internal Communications Error
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 208
Mileage: 159925 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:11:42

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000010
Bin. Bits: 00000000


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E HW: 1K0 909 605 E
Component: 1R AIRBAG VW8R 024 6300
Revision: 03024000 Serial number: 0037KD03TUGZ
Coding: 0012626
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2E7DC209B90C649

Part No: 1K0 959 339 E
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0005

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
Component: J0527 034 0070
Coding: 0000021
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 78D124510BC86A9

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 952 D
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1212
Coding: 0023203
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2B7BCB1D8A1E111

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H10 0120
Revision: H10 Serial number: 28001057218740
Coding: 3D3F0B60071002
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2A75CE1985E4089

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 952 D
Component: IMMO 3HL 1212
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B7BCB1D8A1E111

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 364DEA69415C5C9

1 Fault Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D04 1606
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3245D679AD34409

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 AF
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 137803281B09050F880F048051A0
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 74C9106117A00E9

Component: Sounder n.mounted

Component: NGS n.mounted

Component: IRUE n.mounted

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 3753E76D4656A51

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 C HW: 1K0 035 180 C
Component: Radio DE2 011 0014
Revision: 00011000 Serial number: VWZ4Z7E2040507
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 20612C31F3D8C29

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 3147D975A8327B1

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 3245D679AD34409

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D7FC505B40A1F1

No fault code found.

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Old April 12th, 2012, 16:00   #4
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VCDS can only show you what the car knows, and even more importantly, what the engineers at the factory decided it should divulge to a scan tool. As far as I can tell, feedback from this sensor is not available in your engine.

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Old April 12th, 2012, 18:03   #5
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Sounds hokey -
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Old April 12th, 2012, 19:02   #6
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On my BEW it was measuring blocks group 43 position 2.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 08:32   #7
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Thanks man Ill check it out when I get home
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Old April 14th, 2012, 19:34   #8
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Sorry for the confusion. I just received my Bentley and its the G500 sensor not the G581. I found it in Group 43 Block 2 in a readout of % not voltage. I would have helped to have this labeled appropriately in the VCDS software.
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Old April 15th, 2012, 13:05   #9
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Sorry for the confusion. I just received my Bentley and its the G500 sensor not the G581. I found it in Group 43 Block 2 in a readout of % not voltage. I would have helped to have this labeled appropriately in the VCDS software.
I just loaded my Ross-Tech software on my laptop and did an auto scan. I am also trouble shooting a P0299 under boost condition and was looking in group 11 to cycle the N75 valve but it looks like this group is not available for the BRM 1.9 tdi. I also looked in my Bentley book and the actuator is called Turbocharger Vane Position Sensor (G500). I am trying to become more familiar with VCDS. Where did you find the information that indicated that Group 43 Block 2 is the read out for the sensor? Does anyone know if you can cycle the N75 valve on the BRM 1.9 tdi with Ross-Tech VCDS software 11.11.3?

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I think that when you run the test for the turbo actuator it uses the N75 valve while the rpms go up and down. There's also a separate test specific to the N75 valve but I cant tell you exactly how to get there without going and plugging into the car.
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For all PD cars is same BRM or BEW .
You need to do basic setting 011.
Field 4 is position of actuator sensor.
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