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March 15th, 2012, 07:19
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Good Ol' Boy
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicago IL USA
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Originally Posted by MotorCityMadman
...the cost of someone swapping it out is more than the value of the car. Pretty easy math.
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Easy, but fallacious.
You have to compare the replacement cost - replacing just the transmission or the entire car (and the associated increase in insurance premiums, fuel cost, etc...).
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March 15th, 2012, 07:47
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Certified Volkswagen Nut Vendor
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: St Louis
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Yep, fallacious math indeed. Somthing Americans seem to be really good at. Go eyeballs deep in dept, it's cheaper that way! Yay!!! 
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March 15th, 2012, 08:05
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MB
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How about diminishing returns. While the tranny is the largest current snag, it is not the only one. Each of those snags have to be addressed by a paid party. Not to mention the ongoing deterioration of the body due corrosion.
Insurance rates are dependant upon your area. Where he is the uplift is minimal. It is PLPD that governs the premium.
By the way- Who mentioned debt? Canadian math works pretty well.
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March 15th, 2012, 08:08
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas..I work in Oil & Gas...
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In the real world, debt = money (or else the banks would not exist). If it were not for the banks, we would be trading shiny stones for apples and cloth. 
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Malone tune, GTI Wheel with paddle shifters, Premium 8 Sound, Good camshaft & DMF, 118K miles, Black on Black.
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March 15th, 2012, 08:13
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MB
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Yes debt = money. That is someone elses money.
Keep your house in order and use the banks wisely.
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March 15th, 2012, 10:44
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: St. Louis
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Where is your brother located?
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2000 Jetta TDI 5 speed manual 219,100 miles Black Leather interior swap, Airbag light now on 
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March 15th, 2012, 10:50
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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March 15th, 2012, 14:37
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Good Ol' Boy
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicago IL USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MotorCityMadman
How about diminishing returns. While the tranny is the largest current snag, it is not the only one. Each of those snags have to be addressed by a paid party. Not to mention the ongoing deterioration of the body due corrosion.
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Everything you mentoned is also true of a new vehicle - except in rare cases, * its value drops like a rock as soon as you take ownership of it and does not level off for several years. Even new cars can (and do) have transmission issues, rust, wonky running or other snags. Many of which are not covered by warranty. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.
A well-maintained VW with a reman 01M may easily motor on for another 290k km. I'm guessing it has not been maintained particularly well, considering it never had the transmission fluid/filter changed (not that it necessarily would have prolonged its inevitable failure) and your allusion to severe body corrosion. In that case your brother may prefer to get into a newer vehicle - at the end of the day, it's his toonie to spend how he sees fit.
*I have experienced this first-hand. My wife and I bought a brand new Scion xB when they were first introduced and paid it off in 1.5 years. A year after that (at the height of xB mania) we sold it for darn close to the same price we paid for it. 2.5 years of motoring and we wound up only paying taxes/interest, fees, fuel, oil changes & insurance for that car.
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March 15th, 2012, 14:44
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MB
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You are correct sir. Had the vehicle been in my hands, or another DIYer, the equation changes greatly.
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