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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:19   #16
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...the cost of someone swapping it out is more than the value of the car. Pretty easy math.
Easy, but fallacious.

You have to compare the replacement cost - replacing just the transmission or the entire car (and the associated increase in insurance premiums, fuel cost, etc...).
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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:47   #17
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Yep, fallacious math indeed. Somthing Americans seem to be really good at. Go eyeballs deep in dept, it's cheaper that way! Yay!!!
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How about diminishing returns. While the tranny is the largest current snag, it is not the only one. Each of those snags have to be addressed by a paid party. Not to mention the ongoing deterioration of the body due corrosion.

Insurance rates are dependant upon your area. Where he is the uplift is minimal. It is PLPD that governs the premium.

By the way- Who mentioned debt? Canadian math works pretty well.
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In the real world, debt = money (or else the banks would not exist). If it were not for the banks, we would be trading shiny stones for apples and cloth.
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Yes debt = money. That is someone elses money.

Keep your house in order and use the banks wisely.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 10:44   #21
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Where is your brother located?
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Old March 15th, 2012, 14:37   #23
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How about diminishing returns. While the tranny is the largest current snag, it is not the only one. Each of those snags have to be addressed by a paid party. Not to mention the ongoing deterioration of the body due corrosion.
Everything you mentoned is also true of a new vehicle - except in rare cases,* its value drops like a rock as soon as you take ownership of it and does not level off for several years. Even new cars can (and do) have transmission issues, rust, wonky running or other snags. Many of which are not covered by warranty. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

A well-maintained VW with a reman 01M may easily motor on for another 290k km. I'm guessing it has not been maintained particularly well, considering it never had the transmission fluid/filter changed (not that it necessarily would have prolonged its inevitable failure) and your allusion to severe body corrosion. In that case your brother may prefer to get into a newer vehicle - at the end of the day, it's his toonie to spend how he sees fit.

*I have experienced this first-hand. My wife and I bought a brand new Scion xB when they were first introduced and paid it off in 1.5 years. A year after that (at the height of xB mania) we sold it for darn close to the same price we paid for it. 2.5 years of motoring and we wound up only paying taxes/interest, fees, fuel, oil changes & insurance for that car.
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You are correct sir. Had the vehicle been in my hands, or another DIYer, the equation changes greatly.
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