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Old June 2nd, 2011, 16:46   #1
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I'm getting a P13D4 fault code from the scanner at the local auto zone.

Best I can tell it's ignition system/emissions related

Pxxxx for powertrain

P1xxx Manufacturer codes for additional emission system function; not required but reported to the government

Px3xx ignition system

Does anyone have a link to find this code, I've googled it and found nothing but dead links.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 13:27   #2
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Got to the dealer today and got the codes read, it returned three from memory.

P13D4 Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 electrical malfunction static

P13D6 Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 implausible signal intermittent

P13D6 Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 implausible signal static

Looks like it's plug related, went ahead and ordered one to replace it if the light comes back on. After he reset the codes they did not come back on during the ride home.

Has anyone else seen this before?

Should I just shelve the plug until it reoccurs or be safe and replace it when I get the part?

What could cause this other than a bad sensor, would a quick start without letting the light go off first possibly cause this?

Is there an online registry somewhere that would benefit from this code information so others could find it easily?
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 13:39   #3
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What could cause this other than a bad sensor, would a quick start without letting the light go off first possibly cause this?
Possibly a bad wiring harness or flakey connector

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Is there an online registry somewhere that would benefit from this code information so others could find it easily?
These people might appreciate the info. I really do not know.

http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/volkswagen/

Good Luck!

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Old June 3rd, 2011, 15:53   #4
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Got to the dealer today and got the codes read, it returned three from memory.

P13D4 Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 electrical malfunction static

P13D6 Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 implausible signal intermittent

P13D6 Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 implausible signal static

Looks like it's plug related, went ahead and ordered one to replace it if the light comes back on. After he reset the codes they did not come back on during the ride home.

Has anyone else seen this before?

Should I just shelve the plug until it reoccurs or be safe and replace it when I get the part?

What could cause this other than a bad sensor, would a quick start without letting the light go off first possibly cause this?

Is there an online registry somewhere that would benefit from this code information so others could find it easily?

The only thing on my paper work for a bad glow plug/sensor was: 05078 PRESSURE SENSOR #3 IMPLAUSIBLE SIGNAL. PERFORMED GF. NOTIFIED TECH LINE. TOLD TO MOVE #3 TO #1,ROAD TESTED. iF FAULT RETURNS TO #3 REPLACE ENGINE MAIN HARNESS, IF RETURNS TO #1 REPLACE GLOW.

Sorry, I can't answer any of your other questions.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 18:12   #5
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The only thing on my paper work for a bad glow plug/sensor was: 05078 PRESSURE SENSOR #3 IMPLAUSIBLE SIGNAL. PERFORMED GF. NOTIFIED TECH LINE. TOLD TO MOVE #3 TO #1,ROAD TESTED. iF FAULT RETURNS TO #3 REPLACE ENGINE MAIN HARNESS, IF RETURNS TO #1 REPLACE GLOW.
That actually sounds like a really good idea. A simple way to tell if it is the glow plug/sensor or the wiring harness. Clear the code, swap the glow plugs and see if the new fault moves. Simple, but effective.

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Old July 9th, 2011, 12:03   #6
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Interesting. I just got the same signals, and it also turned out to be a bad glow plug #3, which they moved to #1 to diagnose. I wonder if there's a systemic problem with the #3 glow plug socket or something.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 15:03   #7
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Two error codes on a my wife's 2009 TDI Sportwagen (codes read and then cleared using VCDS from Ross-Tech):

(1) Cylinder 3 Internal Pressure Sensor
P13D6 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

(2) Cylinder 3 Internal Pressure Sensor
P13D4 - 000 - Short to Plus - MIL ON

Ordered new glow-plug/pressure-sensor from www.idparts.com. Note that this pressure sensing glow plug requires a 12mm socket. The torque to loosen the old glow plug felt quite low (seems appropriate for the formed metal hex of the glow plug).

Used a small extension tube plugged into the end of a shop-vac hose to suck out dust/dirt from around the glow-plug hole. Applied a tiny amount of anti-seize to the threads of the new glow-plug before installing.

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Old February 27th, 2013, 06:55   #8
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Did that resolve the issue? I am getting the p13d4 and p13d6 codes coming up. I have cleared them a couple times with the torque app and OBD bluetooth deal. Looks like I need to fix it.
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Old March 12th, 2013, 19:23   #9
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Did that resolve the issue? I am getting the p13d4 and p13d6 codes coming up. I have cleared them a couple times with the torque app and OBD bluetooth deal. Looks like I need to fix it.
I'm getting these 2 codes. P13D7, P13D9
Any possibility they are covered by warranty? 46,000 miles and 4.5 years old.
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Ok. Here's the deal. The dealership cleared the codes, and tested the 4th glow plug pressure sensor. Everything was working fine. The engine light didn't come back on. They said that if it comes back, they will replace that pressure sensor.
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Update: My engine light is back on. I have a appointment to have the glow plug #4 pressure sensor replaced.
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Old March 31st, 2013, 19:32   #12
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Final: Glowplug #4 pressure sensor was replaced on Tuesday. Light is still off.
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Old June 7th, 2013, 16:36   #13
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Did that resolve the issue? I am getting the p13d4 and p13d6 codes coming up. I have cleared them a couple times with the torque app and OBD bluetooth deal. Looks like I need to fix it.
Yes, that did resolve it. Now over 10 months and error has not appeared again. Two things I did not point out in original post:
1) If the warning light is on (steady glow) for a bad pressure sensor, the computer apparently ignores the bad glow plug pressure sensor and uses the average pressure value of the other three cylinders. It is ok to drive that way until practical to repair (of course, if the warning light is flashing it is not ok to drive).
2) According to the Bentley manual the glow plug tip actually moves back into the housing (it displaces axially when under pressure).
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Old June 7th, 2013, 16:47   #14
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I had the same problem with #2 glow plug same code but for #2 glow plug.

Dealer swapped #2 and #3 glow plugs cleared the code and gave me the same blurb as your.

CEI came back two weeks later same code but for #3 glow plug. Dealer ended up replacing the glow plug under extended warranty...
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Old December 21st, 2013, 20:47   #15
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I am getting the P13D7 & P13D9 codes with the CEL for my 2010 manual JSW, no symptoms as far as I can tell. Paulinski and bockegg, did either of you do or say anything in particular to get the repair done for free by the dealer? My 3yr warranty ran out in Feb (and I already spent $140 about a month ago to replace a broken wire related to the glow plug). Would appreciate any advice on how to not get nickeled and dimed by them!
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