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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old March 28th, 2011, 10:25   #1
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Default Upper strut mounts failing? (pic)

Opened my hood this am to add washer fluid, and noticed this. Is the shock top sitting higher than it should? It struck me as high, but I just may not have noticed before. Car only has ~125,000 km but it is 10 years old...

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Old March 28th, 2011, 10:30   #2
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Yep - time for replacement upper mounts and bearing.
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Old March 28th, 2011, 10:51   #3
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How much does that run?
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Old March 28th, 2011, 12:41   #4
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i could have sworn that this gap was normal. if i remember correctly, my gti had it with stock, h&r race, and 20th anniversary springs, all with new upper strut bushings and bearings. nothing was loose, it just looks weird due to the gap. i'll have to check my tdi to compare.

EDIT: The more I think of it, my GTI with 20th anniversary springs and NO SPACER had no gap.

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Old March 28th, 2011, 12:55   #5
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I wouldn't be too concerned if it's driving ok... Mine sit like that after a sports suspension installation. Drives just fine.
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Old March 28th, 2011, 15:20   #6
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dont replace it just because you have a gap! do a bounce test, drive on some ragged road, but don't judge it just by that air gap
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Old March 28th, 2011, 16:33   #7
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The rubber squishes downsome over the years and the strut cap raises a little. Don't worry about it. This is normal. Just replace the bearings/mounts when the struts are replaced.

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Old March 28th, 2011, 16:42   #8
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I think I just panicked a bit since I hadn't noticed the gap before. The corner bounce test has the car stop in two cycles of bounce, so suspension seems ok. Guess I'll leave it.

Thanks for replies, guys!
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Old March 28th, 2011, 16:48   #9
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When you do get to replacing those mounts there is a little aluminum spacer available at the dealer so I'd imagine online as well.

I added them to mine as an offset to the skid plate I added.
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Old March 28th, 2011, 17:37   #10
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Please see attached how-to.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=703226

Your gap "appear" to be approximately the same as the ones in the pick....
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Old March 28th, 2011, 19:12   #11
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Mine are like that too at 178,000Km.
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Old March 29th, 2011, 06:04   #12
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I'm pretty sure mine have always been like that, too. Replaced front struts within the last 10K miles, same before / after.
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I think this may have to do with the presence of the metal spacer that is on some of the mk4 suspensions. My GTI had it from the factory, and I kept it in during my 1st suspension install of Neuspeed Race springs. Same gap.

I then went to 20th anniversary GTI springs and took out the spacer. I don't think I had any gap after that. (I can't be certain; the car has been sold so I can't check -- sorry for my earlier post about it being the same.)

My TDI does not have the spacer, and does not have a gap.

The spacer goes between the strut bearing and that metal ring that contains the top of the spring.
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