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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old November 2nd, 2009, 15:04   #1
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Red face detroit 18" wheel fitment on mk4?

I was wondering if the detroit 18's would fit on a jetta mk4..or what bolt pattern is on the mk4 rather...what kind of spacers would i need too?




http://4130-products.com/wheels/Detroit.html

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Old November 2nd, 2009, 17:36   #2
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Wrong bolt pattern Mk4 is 5 x 100 these are 5 X 112, they would fit a MK 5 or Passat, or you would have to buy adapters.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 17:53   #3
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There are some rim manufacturers on ebay that make those rims in the 5x100 bolt pattern. I don't know how picky you are about rim companies, but they are out there.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 19:27   #4
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ah yea dang. i really like that style maybe ill check out some on ebay for 5x100's. thanks
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 20:00   #5
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I have seen them on MK4's, you need the 5x100 to 5x112 adapters, as for the offsets and spacers need im not entirely sure but I would bet you could find the info over on the Vortex...
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 11:09   #6
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The Mk5's have a 5x112 bolt pattern and usually have a very high offset (et50), the OEM wheels can be used on a Mk4, but would require wheel adapters.

A 20mm adapter should put the wheels just inside the fender and a 25mm would push them out just a touch further, very close to flush.

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Old November 3rd, 2009, 13:25   #7
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I thought those wheels were called "huffs"?

Be prepared for a serious mpg and acceleration hit if you are upgrading from stock 15"ers.... Oh boy I see you are on an auto trans too. With an extra 80 pounds of rotating mass you will be asking a lot from it.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 19:11   #8
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here ya go.. no spacers or adapters needed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-MK...item3356c6f4f0
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Old November 6th, 2009, 11:33   #9
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hmm i cant afford a broken tranny. how much will my mpgs suffer? my pp520s did quite a number on my mpgs, but probably because my right foot
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Old November 6th, 2009, 12:08   #10
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It's not only rotating mass you have to be concerned about, but the diameter. It's the same principle as leverage.

Think of a tire iron... a long handle makes it easy to turn a bolt. Well now imagine the bolt is supplying the tourque and trying to move your hand. It needs more torque to move your hand than if the handle was shorter.

Hence larger diameter tires require more tourque for the same acceleration, and you lose MPGs as a result. The weight of the wheel would have an affect as well, of course... but I think diameter actually plays a larger role. Once the wheel is moving, the added mass is going to want to freely spin due to inertia... the only thing slowing it down is rolling resistance. I don't think rolling resistance is affected by weight. It is affected by tire pressure, bearings and tire width however.
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