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Old March 4th, 2009, 23:49   #16
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Or they finally convince Saturn, who sells the German Opel designs already (Astra and Vectra)
The Astra is an Opel, but the Saturn Aura is not the Vectra. It shares the front end styling and the basic Epsilon platform, but the wheelbase is different and none of the Vectra's engines, gearboxes or interior parts are present.

It's a very, very different car.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 03:52   #17
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I ordered a 1996 Jetta. It took about 6 weeks to come in. On the window sticker it said " expedite sold car". So at least back in '96 one could order a car from VW.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 06:12   #18
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When did VW get rid of orders on JSWs? And can you still custom order sedans?
We custom ordered our JSW TDI on Jan 12.
Two weeks later status changed to "Factory Order Bank"
A few days ago, its status changed to "Intransit from Factory"
Order is marked as Sold and "Expedite"

VW is having trouble meeting demand, big time, it seems, for the Sportwagen. Our dealer, which is one of the biggest in the state, got only TWO JSWs allocated to them this month. Both are pre-sold orders!

They have maybe 4 JSWs on their lot, and none of them are TDIs.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 09:01   #19
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Same experience in Portland Oregon. All three dealers I have spoken with told me that they get what they get (no special orders) and they all are sticking firm to 3K over MSRP which I won't pay. I spoke with a friend at VOA and the rep confirmed that orders are not being taken and that my best bet is to either A) pay the markup for whatever car arrives or B) wait until the 2010 models arrive at which point in time they expect to catch up to demand (maybe). Needless to say, I'm going to wait them out, I don't really need to purchase in a hurry. Really stupid on VOA's part not to be able to take orders and sell a car, given US dealers are closing right and left.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 10:07   #20
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How many of you folks have bought a new VW before?

VW doesn't do special factory orders for the North American market and they never have. Doesn't matter Jetta wagon or otherwise. Doesn't matter now or 10 years ago.

The Mk5 that I have now, was picked out of the build schedule. I got exactly what I wanted.
He's correct in a way. They don't actually build the car specifically for you like say Mini would. When a car that fits your specifications is built or planned to be built they route it to the dealership that "requested it".
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Old March 5th, 2009, 11:12   #21
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He's correct in a way. They don't actually build the car specifically for you like say Mini would. When a car that fits your specifications is built or planned to be built they route it to the dealership that "requested it".
That does not sound right to me. From your explanation, it sounds like a order from a customer is just held until by chance a car matching the order is found on the assembly line or inventory. That also would mean that a customer with a very specific order may not even get their car.

When I ordered my Eos, the ordered was entered and a build date assigned. The information on it specifically included that it was going to Langhorne VW and a VIN #. That car was built for me and no one else.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 11:35   #22
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That does not sound right to me. From your explanation, it sounds like a order from a customer is just held until by chance a car matching the order is found on the assembly line or inventory. That also would mean that a customer with a very specific order may not even get their car.

When I ordered my Eos, the ordered was entered and a build date assigned. The information on it specifically included that it was going to Langhorne VW and a VIN #. That car was built for me and no one else.
GF's explanation of the system is correct...they don't "custom" produce cars for people in NAmerica. It's very much like a lottery system and sooner or later every possible combo is produced and assigned to a person IF an outstanding order is in the system. This is also the reason some people get their car delivered plus or minus an item or two.

How many possible combinations are there today? Look at how few options are offered:
  • roof
  • transmission
  • NAV
  • # of airbags
Did I miss any?
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Old March 5th, 2009, 11:52   #23
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Guys,don't mislead yourselves. People living in North America DO NOT order cars, the dealer requests a car, hopefully matching your description and then it gets allocated to the dealer and the dealer calls you and tells you your car is on the way. The car does not travel down the assembly line with one person's name attached to it.



Factory Tour from VWVortex story dated 11/2001:

For most Volkswagens coming off the assembly line the first big trip takes the form of a rail journey. Every day 110 double-decker train cars carrying some 2,400 Golf, Golf Variant, Bora, Bora Variant and Lupo models leave the rail freight station at the Wolfsburg plant. Only a small share leaves in about 90 road car transporters, primarily for transportation to dealers in the region. It may be hard to credit, but almost all of these new vehicles have been produced to individual customer specifications (or in the case of North America, to VWoA specifications). Equipment, engine, color, seat covers and many other features are selected by the customer from the wide range of possibilities. So while colors and engine choices recur, in other respects combinations are selected which seldom come up more than once in a working day. It's worth bearing in mind that Volkswagen in fact builds individual personal cars en masse. The sales division runs 11,350 outlets throughout the world, with over 2,800 of them in Germany alone. These dealerships coordinate all customer wishes. To channel these orders correctly, the sales division in Wolfsburg operates a high-performance computer network system, which is also linked with the data processing system in production. In the factory, starting at the body-in-white stage, a small card with a bar-code incorporating the necessary data controls the vehicle's production in line with the customer's wishes.

While customer ordering your Volkswagen is not yet a reality here in North America, it is possible for your dealer to look up allocations of current cars available and those still being produced to see if one matches what you are looking for.


If you ever have the chance to tour one of the Volkswagen factories, don't miss it. Tours of the factory in Wolfsburg, Germany are available as part of your admission to AutoStadt and are available seven days a week during normal business hours. Actually seeing the magnitude of what is involved in simply building a car is something you won't forget and will make you think differently about your Volkswagen from that day forward. The investments in technology, production methods, paint and more are all great signs that Volkswagen is committed to the future and striving to build the best cars ever to leave their factories.




Just to recap: Cars are produced to VWoA's specification. If you wish to custom order, I think you've got to look to MBz/BMW, etc. Do the American car companies still custom order
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When I ordered my Eos, the ordered was entered and a build date assigned. The information on it specifically included that it was going to Langhorne VW and a VIN #. That car was built for me and no one else.
They gave you the build date/vin # for a car that was already planned to be built and assigned the car to your dealership. The car would have been built regardless of your order.
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Old March 6th, 2009, 10:09   #25
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yes color was left out.

color (5?) x tran (2) x roof (2)xairbags (2)x nav (2) there are 80 combo's right there.
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I didn't mention color as I felt it was too obvious

In reality, there are extremely few combinations sold in the USA right now. I think our brothers to the north can get some stuff we don't see.
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