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Old March 14th, 2008, 19:14   #1
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HELP! Came out of movie and can't get key to insert in ignition switch. Never had a warning that there was a problem. This is a 2005 New Jetta. Right now it is at the lot because we got a ride home. I tried all that I knew to do but no help. You just can't get the key to go into the switch. I'm thinking it is mechanical but will go out and disconnect the battery to make the KAM go brain dead and see it it helps. I'm disparate here in MN. I don't want to have it towed to the VW dealer.
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Old March 14th, 2008, 20:57   #2
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My 2005.5 Jetta did this exactly the same thing when I went to pick up my brother at the Seattle airport. The airport is over 2 hours from home and his flight was @ 12:45 AM, so I was kind of up a creek with out a paddle. I tried everything to get the key back in the ignition with no luck and finally figured if I'm going to be stuck calling a tow, I was going to try one last thing. I took out the valet key and just pushed it into the ignition until it went in, and it worked. I was able to start it and drive home. I was afraid to remove the key because I needed the car for work so I would lock the car using the regular key. I did this for a week until my next day off and finally got brave and removed the key and ever sense the key slides in and out just fine, just like it did when new. I did spray some lock lubricant in the key hole and have been fine for 3 weeks now. Knock on wood. I know this isn't much help so good luck and please post what you do find out so I know what to look for.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 05:31   #3
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Get a flash light, and a normal size screwdriver. Look into the ignition switch with the flashlight, you should see a piece of white plastic blocking the entrance (supposedly a dust cover of sorts). This object is spring loaded, and if it becomes cocked, it will lock in place.
Now comes the screw driver. Work on that plastic with the least amount of effort (force) that you feel is required, until you get it back into place.

I've had it happen twice, back in '05, and it has not happened since.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 07:19   #4
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Now that is a good tip, I will remember that one. As a locksmith I often run into this sort of thing. The first thing I do is inspect for debris. Then I put a pick in and feel around and make sure the tumblers are moving up and down. Usually something like will be obvious.

If that does not solve your problem the next thing I do is spray some lube in. I am very particular about lube on locks. I like Ballistol for most locks. I also keep a dry lube in an aerosol can on hand. I tend to steer clear of silicone. Ford makes a product that is basically aerosol White Lithium with some thinners. I like this product but use it sparingly ignitions. Works extremely well on door hinges too. Both car door hinges and the ones on your home or office. Will quiet a squeaky hinge for months, even years sometimes.

If nothing else works I will occasionally do the following. It's very important to make sure there is no debris in the lock first. Also, I am extremely gentle. I will place the key in as far is it will go. Then I give the key a light tap with a screwdriver handle. Inspect first, then lube, then give it a tap. DO NOT POUND!

Many ignitions must be turned with the key to allow for removal and/or disassembly. That means if the key does not turn it may have to be made to turn or damaged to allow for removal/repair anyway.

If all else fails you may want to contact a locksmith before having it towed to your dealer. Many locksmiths have stopped working on cars, especially the high security ones like VWs but a few of us specialize in cars. It pays to call quite a few. The best auto locksmiths generally have a small yellow pages ad or no ad at all. So how do you find them? Try the smaller ads, internet, and ask around. Often the larger lock shops know who they are and will refer you to them.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 08:24   #5
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IT WORKED! I sprayed some WD40 in lock cylinder and worked the plastic part and finally got the key in. I wasn't so sure if it was going to work but eventually with some force the key went in. Had you not responded to my post I would have had a very expensive tow! I owe you one.

I grew up and lived in MI all my life until Ford moved me to KC in 2004. Retired with the big group in 2007 and came back seven months ago working for Ford in MN. I know where's the loyalty? Owned at least 22 new and used Fords. Had to get TDI's for mileage and technology since they want to leave all the diesels in Europe!
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Old March 15th, 2008, 09:16   #6
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Yeah, I'm a FORD man but when my Explorer got rear ended on Halloween 2005 I decided it was time for a TDI.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 15:20   #7
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Gave up my 30 Gallon per week 7.3L Diesel just in time. Diesel is now $3.99 per gallon.
What a rip!
Loving the TDI, and $7.00 per gallon is when I start griping.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 16:38   #8
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You mentioned expensive tow, did you try VW roadside assistance - should be good for 4 years or you are over 4?
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Old March 15th, 2008, 17:50   #9
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Yeah, I love my TDI too. I still have my vans for my business but we don't use them as often as we used to.
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Old May 5th, 2008, 18:46   #10
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Hi! My '05 Golf TDI has the opposite problem - the ignition switch flap (as the stealership called it) doesn't close. They lubed it, but it didn't help. It's under warranty still. They ordered a new switch lock. In the meantime all the dust can fly in. Anyone else have this problem?
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Old May 8th, 2008, 18:18   #11
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Originally Posted by whitetdi05
Hi! My '05 Golf TDI has the opposite problem - the ignition switch flap (as the stealership called it) doesn't close. They lubed it, but it didn't help. It's under warranty still. They ordered a new switch lock. In the meantime all the dust can fly in. Anyone else have this problem?
Thanks! Kristina
Just the opposite, eh?

Take a Q-Tip, or a good solid 'sucker' stick, and cut it in half with scissors (SHARP scissors, if a Q-Tip is your choice, cut the cotton ends off, you want just the stick portion).
Q-Tips, and 'sucker' sticks are made out of compression wrapped paper. If your new tool gets a little ragged, make a new one.

Poke at the white block with the freshly cut end of the "tool" that you just created. It might take 5 or 10 minutes of poking, and possibly 2 or 3 fresh sticks to get it to move. Once it moves, use a very light spray of silicon lube, don't over do it. repeat as needed, but go light on any lube that you use.
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Old June 9th, 2008, 17:18   #12
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Thanks Tim. Its 95 deg out, cooled down from 100. I am in VA for training for 4 days (3 hours from home), I get home Thursday, today is Monday. I get a call from my Daughter (15). "Dad, Mom is mad, we are at chillies and she can't get the key into the car"! First I try to calm Mom down (no luck) I try to talk her through your "white plastic thing is stuck", She agrees, but can't find anything to move it. I call my Brother (lives next door), he runs out to chillies (on way to airport to pick up his wife). He angles the key torwards the front of car and forces it into hole! She is now heading home.

Anyway, once she gets home we got a couple things to try.
Can she lock the car with key #2 while key #1 is still in ignition?

if yes, I will have her drive the car until I get home. She can just lock the key into car while leaving it in ignition. (I hope she don't automaticly just pull it out, its habit forming).

If no, she needs to try to spray some wd-40 into hole by pulling key out 1/2 way (what a mess), then working key in and out. Only to eventuly pull key all the way out, Hoping it goes back in again.

Brother will not be back until around midnight. He did say she could borrow his spare Dodge Ram 50 (with no AC) until I get home.

Murphy sucks. This stuff only happens while I am away at training twice per year.

UPDATE: She got home, pulled the key 1/2 way, in and out while spraying a little wd40 into lock. She pulls key all the way out and it goes right back in. She notices she can't see that little white plastic thing anymore. My bets are it is still stuck, but now stuck in the open position, only to move again once it gets hot in car (tomorrow). Hope it don't get stuck again.

Also, you can lock the key in the car, but you need the use the 2nd key in the door lock to lock and unlock the car. (remote will not work).

Could the position of the wheels while parked have anything to do with this? I don't beleve so since the wheel lock is unlocked by turning the key, not by sticking the key into the tumblers.

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Old June 9th, 2008, 19:01   #13
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I have had the key rotate 360 degrees in the door lock before which freaked me out, but I haven't had any problems with the ignition switch.
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Old June 10th, 2008, 18:24   #14
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This is a real problem. it started to happen again. Seems the heat of the day in a locked car causes it to happen.
This time she stuck the valay key in and left it there, and locks it with her real key.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 09:52   #15
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This happened to me 2 days ago in the 100+ degree Fort Worth, TX heat. Had VW roadside tow it to Stealership. They said some sort of spring blew and they're ordering a whole new ignition system for it. Will take 3-10 days to get parts.
Now I'm stuck with a loaner Pasaat gasser.

Kind of wish I had checked here first...I'll keep you posted on parts and such when I get it back.
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