Dual Diaphram Clutch Kit (& VR6) Group Buy

[BleachedBora]

Hello all!
I was looking at the dual diaphram clutch kit last night, and I was really impressed with it. I know that it's used on many of the highly modded turbo VR6 and 1.8T cars without slippage, and I think that it would be a great choice for us TDIs. I spoke with my vendor today about it, saying that to get the word out I need some sort of group buy pricing. Between him and I we have knocked off $150 on the price of the kit. As long as I have at least 10 of them sold we can get the price. Usual price with the transmission stretch bolts is $795 shipped. I am offering them for this group buy only at $649 shipped with 6 pressure plate & 6 flywheel bolts and the transmission stretch bolt kit (it's usually $20 for the stretch bolts). Canadian buyers can get it for $725 USD shipped, I pay the customs fees.
My vendor is also watching this thread, and after the order goes in my price goes back up to the $795 price. Some know that in the past they have been able to take advantage of my soft heart and get a recently ended group buy price after the fact. DO NOT even try on this, because it will not happen.

The Dual Diaphram kits will be ordered from my vendor last week in June for a 1st week in July delivery date. Expect US or Canadian kits to arrive by July 14th. Canadian kits will be sent via FedEx ground (remember I am paying brokerage fees), but upon request I will send them 2-day air. If you are not in a hurry please allow me the extra $$ for my education .

June Special--Dual Diaphram Clutch kits:
As seen in my Bargain Bin--I offer the following for clutches:
~Clutch:
*All models (A3/B4 do not need bolt kits):
-SACHS VR6 clutch kit 1862393031 (Disc, Pressure Plate, Throwout bearing) (990 lb. clamp load) PN: 021198141 --- $199 shipped
-G60 or Lightened Flywheel 021105269B --- $195 shipped
-6 Flywheel & 6 Pressure plate bolts (included in all clutch kits) --- $20 shipped

---Clutch Kits (Include Disc, Pressure Plate, Throwout Bearing, Light or stock flywheel & 6 flywheel & PP Bolts as well as transmission stretch bolt kit (A4/A5 only))--
*Lightened flywheels are not recommended for a TDI due to excessive vibration and the fact that diesel cars do not rev as quickly as a gasser--and the only real reason for a lightened flywheel is to help the engine rev faster--hence, a lightened flywheel is not needed!
-G60 or Lightened Flywheel with SACHS 228mm VR6 clutch kit --- $399 shipped (Best seller) ($475 shipped to Canada FedEx with me picking up the duty fees)

*Note on the following upgrade kits:
I called up many of my vendors and looked into providing SPEC stage I, II etc... Come to find out that they have a lot of VR6 and 1.8T owners that return the kits because they fall apart on them. SPEC only carries Aluminum flywheels, which are too light for the TDI. Another thing they do is offer kits with your existing dual mass flywheel, which will potentially fall apart on you if you go with a lot of power. Regardless, because of that I have put together the following kits. All are handmade and tested at the factory. The Power clutch kit is really a mild improvement over the VR6, and is mostly offered as a middle ground. Interestingly enough however my vendor cautions that if you're a torque monster you should steer away from this and stick with either the VR6 or the steel back kit. Furthermore the billet kit is overkill unless you are a turbo VR6 developing over 500 hp. The best upgrade is the dual diaphram cover; it comes with a 20 lb. steel single mass flywheel, maintains stock driveability, and will more than handle any power and torque a TDI could ever throw at it. If you're wary about the VR6 then that's the way to go!

-G60 or Lightened FW & Power clutch kit with bolts (1150 lb. clamp load) --- $599 shipped ($649 to Canada--no duty fees)
-G60 or Lightened FW, dual diaphragm cover, steel back 228mm disc (1750 lb. clamp load) --- $649 shipped w/extra bolt kit (Recommended upgrade)
-G60 or Lightened FW, billet clutch cover, your choice steel or sintered 215mm disc (2000+ lb.) --- $1195 shipped ($1249 to Canada, again duty free)

--NOTE--
Many gurus state that this additional 6-bolt kit is required for all A4 & A5 clutch kits:
2x N10209603
2x N10268302
1x N10246603
1x N90597001
Included free of charge in all kits, otherwise available for $20 shipped

-A4/A5 Crankshaft seal 06A 103 171A --- $40 shipped
-A3/B4 Crankshaft seal 068 103 171F --- $40 shipped

Cheers!
-BB

[Fix_Until_Broke]

PM Sent

[brew1]

Very tempting.

I'd like to hear more about these dual diaphram clutch kits from someone thats been driving with one. Sounds like the best of both worlds if they retain stock drivability and are somewhat bulletproof.

Who is the manufacturer?

[BleachedBora]

The dual diaphram kit is imported by a performance clutch guy in England. He starts with a SACHS pressure plate and modifies everything from there. The disc has a steel back reinforcement with riveting to the center hub (e.g. it's more rigid than the VR6). Springs on the hub are more heavy duty. Pedal feel is just like with the VR6 setup. It bolts right in just like the VR6 kit would. Torque ratings are for around 400+ lb. feet--the turbo VR6s and highly modded 1.8Ts love this kit. It will be the next kit that goes in my car...
Cheers,
-BB

[BleachedBora]

We have a list going! Thanks guys

Dual Diaphram Kit Signup Sheet
(Bold have already sent me payment)
1) Fix_until_broke '03 Jetta
2) Brew1 '03 Jetta

[mr.mindless]

you've got PM

[BleachedBora]

And answered--meanwhile here is a comparison pic!
-BB

[TDI_Convert]

It figures! Just when I install the VR6/G60 kit.........

Bump for a great vendor!

[unitacx]

So what is the advantage of this over a V6 kit?

[brew1]

Originally Posted by unitacx

So what is the advantage of this over a V6 kit?

If you do some research using the search function, you will find some members have gone beyond the limits of the the OEM VR6 kit and needed to upgrade again to a stronger clutch as they continued to mod their vehicles.

If your not planning additional mods, then you may be fine with the OEM VR6 setup, however if you may add further power mods, then you may want to consider this clutch, should be the last one you will need to install.

Pretty good package price as well.

[Fix_Until_Broke]

Just got back from my first long highway drive with my newfound power (RC2 & PP502's). For the last couple weeks, I was unsure if I had a real clutch problem - just being optomistic. Noticed some hunting around in 3rd/4th when really getting after it - never spend enough time in 5th at speeds over 50 MPH to have any clutch issues.

I went to pass someone on the interstate before a gap closed up - stood on it in 5th (~2300 RPM) and the tach and boost gauge moved at the same speed in the same direction. SOaB - I guess my clutch problem is real (had this in the back of my mind, but kind of in denial - no question now).

Oh - and if you engage the cruise 5 MPH below the setpoint, it will slip the clutch for just a fraction of a second and then automatically stop trying. It must monitor slippage or RPM difference (only during cruise, as it'll let you slip it as much as you want on the pedal), but have wider tolerances than the A4 PD cars which have the 5th gear cruise problem.

7 more weeks....and more importantly, 8 more people to go!

[Sebpt]

Please add me to the list for the G60/dual diaphram kit

Thanks
Sebastien

[mishkaya]

Please add me to the list for the following:
G60 or Lightened FW, dual diaphragm cover, steel back 228mm disc
Thanks
Mishkaya

[mr.mindless]

I'll take the group buy kit with a standard weight flywheel - unless you can find a heavier one =)

I'll take the 20th AE rear brake upgrade from you BBBB at the same time too.

[BleachedBora]

That makes 5! Cool, we're halfway!

Dual Diaphram Kit Signup Sheet--Standard G60 flywheels unless noted
(Bold have already sent me payment--makes things easier for me to track!)
1) Fix_until_broke '03 Jetta
2) Brew1 '03 Jetta
3) Sebpt '03 Jetta
4) mr.mindless '02 Jetta
+20th Anniversary rear brake upgrade kit
5) Mishkaya '06 Jetta