cjmorrell
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I will check into the certificate/indorsement from Volkswagen.
Chris Thorton---I forget his username here--- doesn't drive a PD also-- so your argument is mootFrank M said:There is an Amsoil salesman that once said "because he lives in Texas, he uses a thick oil"
Based on that, the SAE30 would be the right Amsoil choice.
Sorry cjmorrell, we're not permitted to discuss Volkswagen 505.01 approval here in regards to Amsoil.cjmorrell said:I will check into the certificate/indorsement from Volkswagen.
Good luck figuring it all out and again, sorry about not being able to discuss this product freely.The man said he wanted to use amsoil read the first post -
VW list or not he wanted to use amsoil cert from VAG irrelevant
dhdenney said:I would disregard this comment. 5w40 is formulated for the PD so use it. The SAE 30 is a HD oil and your PD is not a heavy duty engine.
It doesn't matter that he has a PD.20IndigoBlue02 said:Chris Thorton---I forget his username here--- doesn't drive a PD also-- so your argument is moot
...and yes... go with AFL (Euro 5w-40). While they lack certification from VAG.... Amsoil recommends it and will stand behind their product
Proving that 40 is 40 and they are the same as far as drag. Acually on long trips I would expect the blend to give you better milage. Might be hard to measure. Since the car is further towards its proclaimed break in point of what 50k it should have been a tad better and it was not. Maybe Amsoil is thicker even when hot. That would be good and what I would expect.dhdenney said:I switched from Castrol TXT to the Amsoil at 15K miles. I'm now up to almost 21K on Amsoil. No noticeable improvement in MPG. I did achieve my first 700+ mile per tank with Amsoil but I also drove the speed limit to help get that. With oil change as the only mod, I say no it won't net you any more MPG.
Cliff, you stated in your previous post your next step would be to check on Amsoils VW certification.cjmorrell said:AMSOIL 5W-40 European Engine Formula meets the VW specs and that is what AMSOIL lists on the bottle and spec sheet. VW can't go throguh all engine oils on the market and endorse them , especially when they prefer to sell their own branded oil as they make a lot of profit.
Cliff
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Frank M said:Cliff, you stated in your previous post your next step would be to check on Amsoils VW certification.
Is this what you found out?
If so, I would like to buy the VW branded oil however I have never seen any from VW.
Like you state, for VW there is "a lot of profit " selling oil.
I would imagine even more profit is made when there is no overhead such as hiring salespeople, advertising, paying for Certifications etc.
I and many others prefer to pay for a quality product.wjdell said:Thats true Frank and in the computer business we found it better, much better. We did not sell as many computers but we did not care.
He can not prove its good enough, true, and for that matter no one can prove its not. I the end if you used a product that was branded for 505.01 in North America, by a reputable company. It would not be up to the customer to prove the oil was good enough, but for for VW to prove it was not. Then we would have the test
Frank M said:I and many others prefer to pay for a quality product.
That is why we have brand names doing most of the business in any sector.
It may well be, however it is not a major brand doing business in its sector. Its just a brand without credibility from VW.tdi06 said:I prefer a qualty product too, thats why I use Amsoil. Good stuff!
jombl said:Sorry cjmorrell, we're not permitted to discuss Volkswagen 505.01 approval here in regards to Amsoil.
Fred's member wjdell is correct regarding the Party Line:
Good luck figuring it all out and again, sorry about not being able to discuss this product freely.
Frank M said:It may well be, however it is not a major brand doing business in its sector. Its just a brand without credibility from VW.
I have been around the service business for along time. Have had people sell me parts that were made by "so and so" the same name that everyone recognizes and uses.wjdell said:Neither is SuperMicro - but you do not believe for a minute the a 400 Dell has a SuperMicro board
On the other hand some of their top end multi processor servers are SuperMicro boards - They do not say - Dell asian dodo
Dell SuperMicro - on the front
don't get me wrong I like you Frank we just have a difference in opinon. I think Shell is a better company than Mobil Shell labs are second to none. I use all Mobil Shell Amsoil
Come on Frank - Amsoil does not package rejects - The discusson I thought was based on adverizing and channels. I have a Toshiba laptop and my server is a old Intel PRX 440 dual cpu's to me a Intel board is about as low as I will go. I built this one in 98 and its ticking.Frank M said:I have been around the service business for along time. Have had people sell me parts that were made by "so and so" the same name that everyone recognizes and uses.
I got burned just a few times until I realized that "so and so" has to dump their rejects somewhere. They had a higher failure rate and some didn't work at all right out of the box.
I don't buy anything that means something to me unless it is a brand name that is well known for quality. PERIOD
Its called reducing the odds of getting junk.
Not to say that everything is perfect, just if something goes haywire they will also stand behind it.
Rejects are a waste of time for any manufacturer or service person.
Pay the price, get the best quality product and charge accordingly. Customers deserve to get what they pay for, not rejects.
The UK dealerships stock a range of oils called "Quantum" on the shelf to sell to customers. It's the same Castrol stuff they use in the service dept, just rebranded and marketed as their own oil. The stuff they use in the service dept is Castrol, but not in bottles. It comes in drums and is marked Castrol.oilhammer said:Frank, just so you know there is Volkswagen/Audi branded 505.01 synthetic 5w40 oil. It comes in a white bottle, similar labeling as the PS fluid, etc. I had gotten it from the dealer a couple times. Squarish liter bottle, not Castrol TXT (although it may have been inside). There have also been a couple different designed Castrol bottles.
WJ,wjdell said:Come on Frank - Amsoil does not package rejects... <snips>
I am sure that Amsoil as Mobil move their substandard stuff to channels were it can be used appropiately for other uses.