Tbirdtree
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Here is mine from today:
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169hp/313ftlbs with similar hw, but 10mm pump ;-)IndigoBlueWagon said:Not bad, ibanix, but I wonder about your pump. You should be getting higher numbers with your setup. I saw 173 with a very similar setup on a more conservative dyno. What max boost are you running?
Seems on target. An 11mm should give another 10-15 HP beyond that.jsrmonster said:169hp/313ftlbs with similar hw, but 10mm pump ;-)
http://ascension.globat.com/~rocketchip.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?pid=29&fullsize=1
Max boost is 25psi.IndigoBlueWagon said:Not bad, ibanix, but I wonder about your pump. You should be getting higher numbers with your setup. I saw 173 with a very similar setup on a more conservative dyno. What max boost are you running?
ibanix said:So Charlie, can you write a 'full fuel' tune? With the W/M setup I have, I can reduce the smoke considerably.
EGT has not really been an issue for me - I have to go WOT for a good bit to get up to 1450F, and W/M won't let me get above that. It just hits there and won't go any higher.
I'd definately like to try such a tune.
My experience is that adding fuel alone (I've changed injection quantity on the dyno and re-run the car) increases torque, and has a limited, if any, affect on HP. And FWIW, I've never run a car with a dyno only tune. I run dynos to find out what the car's delivering day-to-day, so it would be pointless (for me, anyway) to have a dyno-only setup. However, my cars always smoke more on the dyno than on the street or track.KERMA said:I guess it's all in your point of view. One guy's "overfueled" is someone else's "underfueled". Just like "too much smoke" is purely subjective.
FWIW, none of those "KERMA tuned" guys at the dyno day had what you might call "dyno tunes" or any special "dyno only" adjustments. They just came off the street in daily driver trim, ran, and went home adjusted the same way. Everyone had a blast! (maybe next time we can have an award for "best smoke show" but I think everyone just kind of winged it this time around)
This state of tuning is, by definition, "underfueled" if you want to talk strictly in terms of what is achieveable on the dyno without regard to smoke control or safety. If you frame it in terms of a balance between smoke, EGT, and especially turbo warranties, IMO it is about right. Again, subjective.
This is especially relevant in california, where they have a hotline for reporting smoking cars to CARB.
KERMA said:Your VR6 clutch is already slipping!
The mechanics of what you're asking for are very easy to do on my end, but there's an uncomfortable feeling in my gut that follows such requests. In the software, just (kind of) max out certain values, and it's (kind of) done. It's not how I like to do it.
I prefer to factor safety and longevity into the software as much as possible, rather than rely on the end- user to always "do the right thing". To this end, there's lots of time spent to set everything up as close to optimum as possible for each person's equipment and preferences regarding smoke and such.
However, if you really want "such a tune" then obviously you have more personal responsibility to watch gages, and make sure everything stays ok.
We should discuss this further over e-mail or give me a call tomorrow.
Agreed. However, it may be fun to do a "see what she'll do with this hardware" kind of thing.IndigoBlueWagon said:I run dynos to find out what the car's delivering day-to-day, so it would be pointless (for me, anyway) to have a dyno-only setup. However, my cars always smoke more on the dyno than on the street or track.
IMO direct comparison is the real value of a dyno. Dyno a baseline, change something, retest, see how the change helped or not. But I must admit, dyno days sure are fun.IndigoBlueWagon said:I'm going to re-run my wagon with its new exhaust, perhaps as soon as this week. I'll post the results for comparison.
Yes & Yes,KERMA said:I guess it's all in your point of view. One guy's "overfueled" is someone else's "underfueled". Just like "too much smoke" is purely subjective.
This is especially relevant in california, where they have a hotline for reporting smoking cars to CARB.
x2! Oh wait, that's my carBioChoppers said:Yes & Yes,
I've been getting some training on the dyno recently. One thing that is really surprising is how much more smoke a car makes on the dyno compared to what is visible while driving it on the street, even with stock nozzles.
I think it would be safe to say that if someone completely stopped smoking while sitting still on the dyno there is an underfueled condition occuring.
It might be interesting to see what it puts down if you were to have to the fuel increased a little?KROUT said:On my dyno my car had very little smoke at 178hp
KERMA said:IMO direct comparison is the real value of a dyno. Dyno a baseline, change something, retest, see how the change helped or not. But I must admit, dyno days sure are fun.
RC6, sorry I forgot to post it, this is my first dyno ever, so I would like to ask if I were to install Race 520's in my car just to dyno it, do you think I would be able get over 200 HP? I was short by 4.12 HPKROUT said:Nice results what tune are you using?
Yes i also agree!KROUT said:Yes easy over 200.