gmo
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any one got in exp with this . did fitting a shim make the smf a a bit more user freindly
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lol,, less sticking in gears at low revs and dull the noise a bit matemake the SMF a bit more user friendly?
like what? give it more personality? JK
same time as change of clutch mate . tried 2 boxes and both sameWhen was the last time you changed the trans oil with the Proper stuff?
this trans has about 120k on i get mates rates at garage (MY BRO OWNS IT) and one of my best mate it tech for vw pullmans and get full service every 6 months as i drive my cars hard , all fluids filters bushes ect..How many miles are you putting on the car you have to change the trans fluid 2 times a year? thats WAY to much, its not going to hurt it but thats just $$$ down the drain. Trans fluid is usually 75-150K depending on the car. MAKE SURE that you are using the correct line of fluid. there are like 10 different types of trans fluid all in the same weight range. you need to know that some trans have brass syncros and some have Kevlar clutches, it all depends on what you have. What code is your O2M? I think that this is probably your issue. O2M's and just about all transmissions that are in healthy shape dont have your issue. #1 cause for trans failure is burnt out fluid or too much moisture in the fluid. Not sure if thats your problem as you changes it 10x more frequently than normal. How many miles is on the trans?
that makes no senseLike this?
http://nothingleavesstock.com/online-store/#ecwid:category=2903030&mode=product&product=13912883
I put one in my Jetta (02M), Have the same transmission and clutch in my TT without the shim - I can't tell any difference between the two.
Comes with rave reviews for whatever that's worth.
I think he is talking about adding a shim to the throwout bearing/slave cylinder because his clutch may not be fully disengaging.
so why are many reporting it solves the issues then mate unless it only works on car in the uk.. i dont know ,that makes no sense
Hydraulic TO bearing is self adjusting. Run it out of travel and it blows out.
I guess I should get in the business of making shims to go atop the clutch pedal pad.
Well there are lots of people who have reported it doing NOTHING at all. Then there are people who also say that they can feel the extra power now once they have installed a co9ld air intake, when its been proven to death in dyno's that cold air filters are junk and rob HP.
Snake oil. Maybe it works on some Trans. I would say do it and stop asking. It’s cheap enough, isn’t going to hurt anything. Report back with results as I’m a sceptic as well
perhaps the geometry of mentioned flywheel kits is completely wrong, placing the release point well out of the range of proper to bearing travelso why are many reporting it solves the issues then mate unless it only works on car in the uk.. i dont know ,
this is pretty much what ive read mate something to do with reliese bearing to, the helix kit seem to be notorious for itperhaps the geometry of mentioned flywheel kits is completely wrong, placing the release point well out of the range of proper to bearing travel
I would agree BUT some cars, they are under engineered, so due to tolerances, VW might have made the 6 speed throwout bearing travel borderline, so some will push the clutch enough to work, while other cars won't. Seems like this is the case this time.that makes no sense
Hydraulic TO bearing is self adjusting. Run it out of travel and it blows out.
I guess I should get in the business of making shims to go atop the clutch pedal pad.
know how the TO bearing's spring loaded against the PP fingers? it's self adjustingI would agree BUT some cars, they are under engineered, so due to tolerances, VW might have made the 6 speed throwout bearing travel borderline, so some will push the clutch enough to work, while other cars won't. Seems like this is the case this time.
I know exactly how it works. Ok, let me try this again, my same explanation as before but maybe some clutch's need more travel, hence the reason why the shim fix's it. Chased a few OE cars for GM back in the day for the same problem. Better?know how the TO bearing's spring loaded against the PP fingers? it's self adjusting
meaning you push your clutch pedal and get your 5 CCs or whatever of brake fluid and the TO bearing moves the PP fingers X distance, no matter where it's at in its travel.
If somehow it runs out of travel it pushes the retaining ring off the end of the plastic center tube and likely starts leaking.
car with shim, TO bearing moves 4mm from 5cc of fluidI know exactly how it works. Ok, let me try this again, my same explanation as before but maybe some clutch's need more travel, hence the reason why the shim fix's it. Chased a few OE cars for GM back in the day for the same problem. Better?
Thank you 486 right on.car with shim, TO bearing moves 4mm from 5cc of fluid
car without shim, TO bearing moves 4mm from 5cc of fluid
starting position of TO bearing is the same in both cases, pushed up against PP fingers with spring tension
this is coaxialThank you 486 right on.
He would do better if he replace the fork and the bottom pivot with new OEM parts
This happens a little with my 02Q DC stage 3 with SMF. Noticed as the temperature dips below freezing, the car does not want to come out of gear until I slow down or blip the accelerator pedal. Drives perfectly fine above that temp though. Now if only the thing would quiet down consistently at idle!I have made the same experience with using an aftermarket SMF clutch, in my case a SPEC stage 3 which would start creeping after a few days and forced me to shut the engine off to get out of gear or to put 1st gear in.
I have then added the OE shim on the wheels side of the transmission which minimized the axial play in the main shaft. Since then it drove fine for a few month, until the point was reached where the clutch wear was big enough to cause the same problems.
I think this is a basic design failure of some aftermarket clutches which need to much travel to fully disengage the clutch, leading to creeping and sticking in gears.
I swapped to a Sachs Race then and had no more problems ever since......
It moves the same but its closer to the PP.car with shim, TO bearing moves 4mm from 5cc of fluid
car without shim, TO bearing moves 4mm from 5cc of fluid
starting position of TO bearing is the same in both cases, pushed up against PP fingers with spring tension