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WTB: VW Solar panel

rhg

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02 Golf 4dr 5M GLS
cgi.ebay.com/.../VW-Solar-Panel-12V-Battery-Charger-OBD-II_W0QQitemZ110421556019QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor...

30 bucks
 

QuickWrite

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They trickle charge your battery for times when you leave the car parked for long periods or when you have a drain on the battery, like when using the 12v plugs to power stuff when camping, etc. It was a unique OEM item that VW shipped with all these cars at one time. Many were stripped out by the dealers and never delivered to customers. I just took delivery of one via member penclnck on this board, who sells them at a reasonable price. If you want one, PM him to see if he has anymore.
 

deAutoLED.com

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These look pretty interesting, just curious what does it looked like hooked up to your car, can't be that appealing, but..
 

JSWTDI09

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These look pretty interesting, just curious what does it looked like hooked up to your car, can't be that appealing, but..
These are not intended to be left installed all the time. They are used by VW while the cars are being shipped to the dealers. Where they are useful is in situations like leaving your car parked at the airport parking lot for several weeks while you are on vacation (or business travel). They keep your battery from running down (just a little trickle charge). With newer VWs make sure you get the model that plugs into the OBDII port. They have also made units that plug into the cigarette lighter socket - these are useless on new VWs because the lighter socket is turned off when the ignition is off.

Have Fun!

Don
 

deAutoLED.com

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These are not intended to be left installed all the time. They are used by VW while the cars are being shipped to the dealers. Where they are useful is in situations like leaving your car parked at the airport parking lot for several weeks while you are on vacation (or business travel). They keep your battery from running down (just a little trickle charge). With newer VWs make sure you get the model that plugs into the OBDII port. They have also made units that plug into the cigarette lighter socket - these are useless on new VWs because the lighter socket is turned off when the ignition is off.

Have Fun!

Don
haha thanks, great info. But I am pretty positive that my cigarette lighter is on when my car is off. As if I leave something plugged in that lights up, when I shut off my car it stays lit.?
 

JSWTDI09

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haha thanks, great info. But I am pretty positive that my cigarette lighter is on when my car is off. As if I leave something plugged in that lights up, when I shut off my car it stays lit.?
In that case, you probably want the model that plugs into the cigarette lighter. Do you know anybody who works at a VW dealer? They often have boxes of these laying around. If not, eBay is probably your best bet. In my car (an '09) the lighter goes off when the key is turned off.

Have Fun!

Don
 

onlyn8v

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Also. Harbor freight makes one for $15 that does the same 1.5 amps. I have both at my house, and they do the same thing. Except, the HF one has a little LED that blinks to let you know its charging.
 

SFHGolfTDI

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I have a question on these. Will the OBD version work on MK4 platform cars (2002 Golf), or only the lighter version? Thanks.
 

JSWTDI09

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I have a question on these. Will the OBD version work on MK4 platform cars (2002 Golf), or only the lighter version? Thanks.
As long as your cigarette lighter works with the key off, either (both) will work.

Newer VWs the 12 volt power outlet (they no longer come with cigarette lighters) goes off with the ignition (key) so the ODBII version is required.

Have Fun!

Don
 

SFHGolfTDI

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Thanks for the response, Don. Would the OBDII version be preferable then since it outputs more? Is there any reason that the OBDII one would NOT work in a 2002 MK4 (non-CAN, I assume)? I've done tons of searching and see no discussion of this.
 

JSWTDI09

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Thanks for the response, Don. Would the OBDII version be preferable then since it outputs more? Is there any reason that the OBDII one would NOT work in a 2002 MK4 (non-CAN, I assume)? I've done tons of searching and see no discussion of this.
In an OBDII connector the 12v and the ground pins are the same no matter what communications protocol (K-Line or CAN) is used. More info here:
http://pinoutsguide.com/CarElectronics/car_obd2_pinout.shtml
or
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5647631-OBD-II-Wire-up

I do not believe that the OBDII version has more power output (I could be wrong about this). The size of the solar panel is the same, so the output is probably the same too. The OBDII one should work on ANY car with an OBDII connector. Therefore, there is no reason why the OBDII version will not work with a Mk4.

Have Fun!

Don
 
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SpamJ

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Very interesting. In that case, I'd get the OBDII version too, if I were you.

Have Fun!

Don
Just remember, some us have a Scangauge plugged into our OBDII port, so if you are planning adding a Scangauge, think about adding an always powered power point.
 

JSWTDI09

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Would anyone know if this would keep my battery topped if my trunk 12v was constantly in use?
That really depends on how much current was being used by whatever is "constantly in use". These solar chargers are only trickle chargers (well under 0.5 amp in bright sun, according to the link above). They are designed only to keep a fully charged battery fully charged. To properly know the answer to your question, we would need to know what is "constantly in use" (or at least it's power consumption).

Also "constantly in use" implies 24 hours a day. Solar chargers only work when the sun is shining on them. Therefore your device that is plugged in must only draw 1/3 to 1/2 what the solar charger can put out.

Have Fun!

Don
 
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JSWTDI09

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Just remember, some us have a Scangauge plugged into our OBDII port, so if you are planning adding a Scangauge, think about adding an always powered power point.

...or you could (God forbid) unplug you ScanGauge while your car is parked for 2 weeks at the airport (or wherever). Since it appears that the OBDII version puts out a little more current than the power outlet version, you could also change the connector on the solar panel to use it in either place.

Have Fun!

Don
 

SpamJ

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...or you could (God forbid) unplug you ScanGauge while your car is parked for 2 weeks at the airport (or wherever). Since it appears that the OBDII version puts out a little more current than the power outlet version, you could also change the connector on the solar panel to use it in either place.

Have Fun!

Don

What! And have the little star meaning it's been unplugged? Well, I guess if you want to use logic. :D
 
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Stealerships, steal you blind of your VW given right'S. Didn't get this animal or the first aid kit, which I was told they didn't order the cars that way. Liars
 

SFHGolfTDI

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Anyone know if the little box where it looks like there are some LEDs or something on these things is supposed to light up to indicate it is working? I just received my OBDII one off ebay, and I'm not sure how I to tell if it is actually working or not.
 
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