2015 Passat biTDI?

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Nice specs, but starting to look like an Avalon.
 

TomB

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Great another high priced model that will NEVER sell in the US because of the exchange rate.

Really VW, keep moving the Passat up towards the Phaeton and leave a void between the Jetta and it so large that Toyota and Honda can drive right through. :)
 

asolo

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Yo, TomB....did you read any of the text?

It said: "America....will get the 2.0L TDI that will have around 190-hp and 280 lb-ft of torque. Compared to the current generation’s 2.0L TDI, that is a 36-percent increase in horsepower and a 19-percent increase in torque. We should expect to see the new 2.0L TDI in the next-generation Golf, Jetta, and Passat."

Assuming the quote is accurate, I don't see any room for your concern/annoyance.
 

VeeDubTDI

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LOL you guys ... griping about how VW "keeps moving" the Passat up the market. Let me remind you that the current Passat is significantly more affordable than the previous generation.
 

TomB

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LOL you guys ... griping about how VW "keeps moving" the Passat up the market. Let me remind you that the current Passat is significantly more affordable than the previous generation.
Guy this is the US version and even though I own one it is NOT the German made version of the Passat or CC. This has been decontented and really does not hold up to what is available in German in this model name.
 

VeeDubTDI

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I really don't know what is available outside of the US... merely saying that the current US Passat is a lot more affordable and more entry-level than the previous US Passat.
 

TurboDieselPoint

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Looking at that picture of the new engine, I can see that the DPF is BUILT INTO THE BACK OF THE MOTOR!!:eek::eek::eek:
Hmmm, I have a pretty good idea why they did this (an even bigger reason than this "heat distribution" excuse), and this could make things a pain if "worst comes to worst" with the DPF...
 

ssamalin

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Looking at that picture of the new engine, I can see that the DPF is BUILT INTO THE BACK OF THE MOTOR!!:eek::eek::eek:
Hmmm, I have a pretty good idea why they did this (an even bigger reason than this "heat distribution" excuse), and this could make things a pain if "worst comes to worst" with the DPF...
Which is? Why do you think they built in the DPF? How reliable is a DPF? It doesn't fail too much right? If your Volvo goes get a 2006 to tide you over until the MQB or whatever the acronym is sorts out. It sure would be nice if VW gets 50 state clean TDI right after all this.
 
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kjclow

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Yo, TomB....did you read any of the text?

It said: "America....will get the 2.0L TDI that will have around 190-hp and 280 lb-ft of torque. Compared to the current generation’s 2.0L TDI, that is a 36-percent increase in horsepower and a 19-percent increase in torque. We should expect to see the new 2.0L TDI in the next-generation Golf, Jetta, and Passat."

Assuming the quote is accurate, I don't see any room for your concern/annoyance.
I had the same thoughts that TomB did after reading the first article. It sounded like, "Oh, here's another engine that we won't get". I was somewhat releived after reading the second article that specifically mentioned the US market. I wonder how this engine differs from the bi-turbo offered in the Amarok? Perhaps this is why VWOA is waiting to offer a NA built Amarok in the US.
 

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Who knows what's in store for the US. That article is for Europe, I believe.

Also, Autobild has no basis in reality. ;)
 
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asolo

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Been scouring the net trying to find something more current than March announcement. No success. Perhaps someone more computer-savvy than I can find more.

Saw that sentence about the "lifetime belt"....that would be nice, wouldn't it?
 

TurboDieselPoint

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Which is? Why do you think they built in the DPF? How reliable is a DPF? It doesn't fail too much right? If your Volvo goes get a 2006 to tide you over until the MQB or whatever the acronym is sorts out. It sure would be nice if VW gets 50 state clean TDI right after all this.
Well, you see, while DPFs have progressively gotten better, they are not perfect, not by a long shot, and sometimes they require certain unmentionable "attention" that would be much more difficult if it's encased in the very back of the motor.
 

TurboDieselPoint

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I have labeled what seems to be the DPF with a RED arrow and what appears to me as the DOC (Diesel Oxidation Catalyst) with a YELLOW arrow.
 

TurboDieselPoint

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Thanks. O no, what's a Diesel Oxidation Catalyst?
It converts CO into CO2 and also converts unburned hydrocarbons into H20 and C02 and heat, so it deals with the fuel from those post injection events for regens, that's why its before the DPF. It's harmless and infact a good thing to have!

Pretty much all diesel vehicles with DPFs have this, including the current Passat.
 
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GoFaster

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Every TDI that has ever been sold in North America, all the way back to 1996, has had a DOC (diesel oxidation catalyst). It's the proper name for the "catalytic converter".

Only the 2009 onward models have the DPF, de-NOx catalyst, etc., and those are in addition to the DOC, which remains in the system.
 
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