IndigoBlueWagon
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We can't even get new diesel cars here, much less 51 cetane fuel. Nice numbers.
Keep us posted on the results, please.DaMidget said:I'm off to dyno here in the next hour - first dyno ever for my car. Oh boy
Nice dyno, are there any intake/exhaust mods on this car? Looks like EGT's kept under 1550° if thats a 0-1600 gauge.jsrmonster said:Silverbullet - 169hp/298ftlbs, 5500rpms
10mm, pp502, hybrid 1752, RC6e
dyno:
http://ascension.globat.com/~rocketchip.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?pid=21&fullsize=1
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am8PstICax4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xBGyTs86ts
DaMidget said:I'm off to dyno here in the next hour - first dyno ever for my car. Oh boy
DaMidget said:I'm off to dyno here in the next hour - first dyno ever for my car. Oh boy
Run was done in 4th. Running on stock clutch - 5spd.jsrmonster said:Very good numbers for pp520 and 10mm, unbelievable! Car must be a rocket ;-)
what gear was your car dyno'd in?
Your mph seems low 96mph for that power band, mine was 120mph in 4th.
btw, what clutch assuming 5spd and not 6spd?
Jeff
2000 golf, could have a LUK, right?Bob_Fout said:A stock clutch that holds to 300 ft-lb?
I think it holds to 250 ft-lb or a bit less. Don't hold me to that though.jackbombay said:2000 golf, could have a LUK, right?
Yea she's a German Golf.IndigoBlueWagon said:Nice numbers. Where did they start the pull? It looks like the chart starts at about 2200 RPM. I always have trouble convincing dyno operators that they should start at idle. And it's comparable to the Silver bullet except it stops 1000 RPM sooner.
Could be a LUK, especially if it's a German Golf. That clutch would hold 300 easy.
IndigoBlueWagon said:I see the point of a thread like this is to see cause and effect. People are going to have comments and questions. Let's just hope people can be civil--so far we're not doing very well on that score.
BTW, my sig is current, except, as noted, I didn't have the PP502s in my car for that dyno--they were PP520s.
Who's the guy on the laptop? looks familiar. Got boost logs?DaMidget said:Sorry on the poor quality of the video, the only camera/video recorder I had was my Samsung i760.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFmza4qBLPs
EDIT: found my answer in the previous page.DaMidget said:Guy on the laptop would be me
Thats a big reason why I have not dyno'd, many here would go nuts "comparing" apples to oranges and it would be pointless. FWIW, I have to drive about 30 miles to get down to 6000'. although the closest dyno is at about 5000'.Sootman said:Nice dyno plots. Very interesting to see the one(s) at altitude vs sea level.
% of correction factor is NOT equal to % of HP.Ed's TDI said:Oh and by the way, even if you take into consideration a 17% correction factor on my last dyno numbers (265 hp and 360 tq) I would have 220 hp and 300 tq which is pretty close to your numbers ...
Okay so now that you're involved with a shop that has a dyno, maybe you can help clear something up that people here don't seem to be able to grasp regarding correction factors, especially concerning dynoing cars at different altitudes or areas of differing ambient temperatures. What I was told by the guys at Kinetic is that the reason they use a correction factor is to compensate for these variables (and more) so that you could measure the same car at any dyno in the world and, as long as the proper correction factors are inputed into the dyno, the results would be the same (within an acceptable margin of error). Can you validate or dispute this so we can all be abit more educated as far as dynos?Passenger Performance said:% of correction factor is NOT equal to % of HP.
We do not use correction factors on our dyno.
I understand what you mean about competitors and all, but JSP and I are not competitors. Kinetic is closer to competition to JSP than I am, I hardly even touch VW's anymore.
We are having another dyno event here in a month or two, you should come out, I'll pay for your dyno.
I agree with all that, but I would rather spend the money on more partsIndigoBlueWagon said:Jack, it's still worthwhile to dyno...
No problem, you are right that correction factors are applied for atmospheric differences, but 17% is way too high for this area, 1-2% would be fine but the maximum at that. What I mean by 17% correction is not 17% of horsepower, is that atmospheric correction percentage is not a percentage that is directly equal to a equal percentage of horsepower made.Ed's TDI said:Okay so now that you're involved with a shop that has a dyno, maybe you can help clear something up that people here don't seem to be able to grasp regarding correction factors, especially concerning dynoing cars at different altitudes or areas of differing ambient temperatures. What I was told by the guys at Kinetic is that the reason they use a correction factor is to compensate for these variables (and more) so that you could measure the same car at any dyno in the world and, as long as the proper correction factors are inputed into the dyno, the results would be the same (within an acceptable margin of error). Can you validate or dispute this so we can all be abit more educated as far as dynos?
Okay so I understand that a 17% correction factor doesn't necessarily equate to a 17% increase/decrease in horsepower made but I'm curious why the dyno guys at Kinetic would choose 17% as their correction factor if your claim is that it should only be 1-2%. Their explaination, according to the techs from Dyno-Dynamics that setup their dyno and schooled them on how to use it, is that this was the correction factor to use for this machine in their location based on all the information they normally use to fine-tune all of these particular dyno units.Passenger Performance said:No problem, you are right that correction factors are applied for atmospheric differences, but 17% is way too high for this area, 1-2% would be fine but the maximum at that. What I mean by 17% correction is not 17% of horsepower, is that atmospheric correction percentage is not a percentage that is directly equal to a equal percentage of horsepower made.