Mazda SkyActiv Diesel Engine

^Are you sure your Odyssey gets 30+mpg? The CX5 is rated at 26/32-35, which is very respectable for that type of vehicle/gasser. If they diesel appears, it may be a game changer. I saw a CX5 a couple of nights ago- it looks nice.

truman said:

^Are you sure your Odyssey gets 30+mpg? The CX5 is rated at 26/32-35, which is very respectable for that type of vehicle/gasser. If they diesel appears, it may be a game changer. I saw a CX5 a couple of nights ago- it looks nice.

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You're right ... she was looking at a 2012 CX7 NOT a CX5. The mileage on the AWD CX7 she was considering was 17 city, 21 hwy, & 19 combined. The Odyssey easily gets better than that.

The newer Odyssey with the VCM engine can tag 30+ MPG. It will also eat that nuts-expensive active front engine mount every 50k miles or so, easily negating much of the extra fuel economy the VCM offers over the regular engine... which has a mount that 'only' will set you back about $400

My old 2.2L Ody cannot even get that good. But it does not puke up expensive parts constantly either, so 24 MPG is just fine.

Plus the VCM light drives me crazy coming on & going off all the time. If it were my daily driver I would have to put a piece of tape over it! We actually did get 30+ MPG on a tank once when we were on a trip. 116,000 miles on the Ody & we've never had to replace the active front engine mount. I'm trying to talk Wife into something else before that goes and before the tranny decides it's reached the end of its ability to shift properly.

Mazda6 concept with Sky-D debut at NY Auto Show

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ma...yactiv-d-diesel-engine-in-new-york-2012-03-28

http://www.torquenews.com/1083/concept-shows-how-mazdas-2013-mazda-6-will-shake-family-sedan-market

Mazda6 *concept* will be at NY Auto Show. With diesel engine.

It is weird, some customers I have replaced that mount 3 times in that mileage, others not at all. May be how they drive? Common enough that Honda stocks several of them, though. Yours a Touring model?

If I ever have to pay $400 + for an engine mount, I will crush the vehicle. That is overengineering at it's finest.

Hehe, you should see this thing. It has its own wiring harnes, LOL.

oilhammer said:

Yours a Touring model?

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Yes ... the first expense was getting rid of the PAX tires.

Concept yes, but where are the commercially available ones?

All G and no D

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...activ-technology-based-vehicle-146067095.html

Even for the 2014 Mazda6 there is still no announcement of the Sky-D.

Never get your hopes up until it's on dealer lots.

bhtooefr said:

Never get your hopes up until it's on dealer lots.

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...or don't trust what any builder says about bringing diesels to North America unless they're German.

*cough*2008 Jetta TDI*cough*

*cough*1998 Passat TDI*cough*

*cough*1997 Golf TDI*cough*

*cough* 2010 Audi A4

I doubt Mazda will be around much longer... They don't sell. We got a Mazda dealership next door to my work and they have not posted profit since they opened 3 years ago. Place is on its 4th ownership and it's got nothing to do with who runs it: people just don't buy em. Does blow that a company which had some great cars like the 323GTX and 626 GT, MX6 GT now makes such ugly cars as the 3.

They might not sell well in Illinois, but they seem to be pretty popular around here ...

Not uncommon around here, although the local Mazda dealer was also a Pontiac dealer, and went out of business within a week of Pontiac announcing that they were closing down.

DasTeknoViking said:

since they opened 3 years ago.

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Take a look at some sales numbers for years 2007 - today... tell me if you see any..... dips.

I can't believe a dealership even tried to enter the market at that time.

In the Skyactiv product line, they place the gasoline engine as the standard version and diesel engine as the premium version (higher horsepower).

RabbitGTI said:

If I ever have to pay $400 + for an engine mount, I will crush the vehicle. That is overengineering at it's finest.

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I just orderd mounts for my B4. Just over 300$. But the trick is 320K miles. Anyhow it is true a lot of Japanese diesels in the past never really materialized so we'll see. The thing other than no adblue I like in the skyactiv diesel is the lighter weight and lower compression which in itself should make this engine last!

Diesel demand

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/04/11/diesel-powered-mazda-cx-5s-beating-gas-versions-3-1-in-japan/

Demand for Mazda with diesel engine was vastly underestimated.

I can look in the crystal ball of future diesels and hear Mazda management "We can't build enough diesel engines to supply Japan and Europe, cancel the diesel for North America and sell the excess gas engines there as Mazda6 fleet units".

MayorDJQ said:

So then whose playbook did VW rip off when they built Rabbits in New Stanton, PA back in the 80s?

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At the time, VWOA was lead by former Big 3 Auto guys. They purchased an unfinished Chrysler Plant. Had great success for several years. Americanized the Rabbit, soft supensions and all, built vehicles that had a tendancy to use oil. Yep, I would say they took a page out of the Big 3 playbook. Pick your favorite.

Mazda Sky-D

So with Mazda Finally bringing Diesel to the US market. I have been doing a bunch of reading on the engine and it seems like it is going to be a hit.

I am not in the market for a new car, but my mother is looking for something that gets better MPG's then her truck. We looked at the KIA's I hated them slugish peace of junk. Anyways I told her to hold off on buying a car for a couple months until she gets a chance to drive them and see if she likes it.

She likes my Golf and Wifes JSW, but she doesnt want to pay that much for a Car. I work for a company that gives us Ford X plan and that transfers over to a Mazda S plan so that will save her a lot of money.

Basicilly I am looking for a little feed back on what people think about them. I Love my Golf I do not ever want to drive anything else besides a VW in fact when this car hits 100k I will be trading up to a MK7.


Thanks JarHead
Semper Fi

Where did you read that its a solid yes ? I just looked and its all old news that they are thinking of bringing over their Sky-D motor over. I work for a dealer group and they literally give Mazdas away nowa days

DasTeknoViking said:

Where did you read that its a solid yes ? I just looked and its all old news that they are thinking of bringing over their Sky-D motor over. I work for a dealer group and they literally give Mazdas away nowa days

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MAzda USA confirmed to me in email SkyActive-D in 2013 model year is coming.

i don't see MAzda giving away (for free) cars, if you know where I can get it for free, please do let me know.

lexa said:

MAzda USA confirmed to me in email SkyActive-D in 2013 model year is coming.

i don't see MAzda giving away (for free) cars, if you know where I can get it for free, please do let me know.

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can you post a copy of the email? I too am skeptical of the diesel promises from other manufacturers.

lexa said:

MAzda USA confirmed to me in email SkyActive-D in 2013 model year is coming.

i don't see MAzda giving away (for free) cars, if you know where I can get it for free, please do let me know.

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139.99 a month lease deals on Mazda3... always plastering posters of current incentives on our NON-Mazda dealership wall. MazdaSpeed3 was dirt cheap few months ago when they had a bunch of em just sitting there. To me when its thousands off invoice on a car- its giving the car away.

Still do not believe they will have a diesel, you could email someone from Mazda within...
Beverly Braga
bbraga@mazdausa.com
Jeremy Barnes
jbarnes5@mazdausa.com

Both names mentioned here...
http://www.mazdausamedia.com/content/mazda-make-us-debut-skyactiv-fuel-saving-technologies

A mazda3 with SkyActive-D would be a sweet combo.

Well, Mazdas are fairly popular around here ... and they're certainly NOT giving them away. Not too surprising that they don't sell well in the Midwest ...