New Recall for front sunroof drains

joetdi

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There is a new recall out for modifying the front sunroof drains. 2001 to 2007 cars Bug, Jetta, Golf, J/wagon and R32. Code 60A7/8. Be watching the mail for it. FYI only.

If you want to do it yourself just clip the drain ends and you're done. However the drain gets cleaned as well. Joe
 
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davebugs

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Yea! I was able to open one a year or so ago with string trimmer line.

The other is still clogged and if I don't watch how I park I get wet.

Any mileage limitation? I'm at 190k in my 2001.
 

abranz

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Don't want to sound dense but are you referring to the outside or inside A piller covers? How do I remove without breaking something? Thanks Tony
 

joetdi

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abranz said:
Don't want to sound dense but are you referring to the outside or inside A piller covers? How do I remove without breaking something? Thanks Tony
Inside, carefully pull them off.
 

joetdi

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Aquaticmind said:
Since Im not the original owner, how would I get in on this recall?
Have dealer input your VIN and see if your car applies.
 

VWBeamer

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Received my recall notice today, but I have already clipped the drain ends, so I don't think I'll waste my time.
 

RomanL

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joetdi said:
There is a new recall out for modifying the front sunroof drains. 2001 to 2007 cars Bug, Jetta, Golf, J/wagon and R32. Code 60A7/8. Be watching the mail for it. FYI only.

If you want to do it yourself just clip the drain ends and you're done. However the drain gets cleaned as well. Joe
does this include RABBIT as well?
 

daedalus

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$30M+ for the lawyers - a new schedule for us

I am opting out. At most I would get reimbursed for work done because I didn't maintain my car. At least I get an additional page for the Owner's Manual. The lawyers need to get by somehow on a paltry $30,000,000 plus another $1,500,000 for their expenses.

If somebody could persuade VWOA to stand behind their customers for the Balance Shaft issue, the Glow Plug and fouled up ECU programming issue, and the decreased timing belt interval issue I would consider that of value.

This insanity has to stop!
 

JC_1992

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daedalus said:
I am opting out. At most I would get reimbursed for work done because I didn't maintain my car. At least I get an additional page for the Owner's Manual. The lawyers need to get by somehow on a paltry $30,000,000 plus another $1,500,000 for their expenses.

If somebody could persuade VWOA to stand behind their customers for the Balance Shaft issue, the Glow Plug and fouled up ECU programming issue, and the decreased timing belt interval issue I would consider that of value.

This insanity has to stop!
I agree with you.

This does seem pretty rediculous, with all of the other problems out there that should be addressed and they chose to take on the faulty sunroof drains :confused: plus how much the lawyers want.

It's kind of pathetic
 

Brockflock

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I got the notice today too! Read it carefully! It says that,"The repair was caused by water entering the vehicle through the sunroof or plenum area."

Here is what my dealer put in their repair invoice:

"Customer states vehicle has water leaking in rear passenger side window. No leak present at this time. Inspected. Cleaned sunroof drains."

So I was screwed before they even started the suit! First they deny a leak: Well, d.s. of course it's not leaking, you're inside! But then they just went and cleaned out the drains anyway? On a lark? Gee, they didn't have historical evidence of this, just just thought it would be nice to give us a car with clean drains!

What a crock!

I specifically recall this visit. I also recall that they didn't clean the drains out well enough to stop the leak. I wound up doing that at home afterward! On my own, with the help and advice of those on this forum.

So, NO THANKS TO VW!, or to the stealership, Vordermann in Ft. Wayne, In.:p
 

Chrismak

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I just got this letter today. I had the flooding issue and went through replacing the wiring harness and TCM. or CCM as sometimes referred to.

It says to submit receipts for repair and out of pocket expenses. Thy have set aside $8 million for this.
I agree that the attorneys fees are astronomical. Bet they all mercedes or Bimmers. LOL

there is a website http://www.wateringresssettlement.com
 

tadc

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Why would they only cover the front drains? The rear ones are the real PITA.
 

davebugs

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My Golf gets done tomorrow.

This is the third recall I found out about here first.

Window regulators, MAF, and now this.

Thanks to the members here.
 

mlemorie

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I did my first one on a beetle today, real simple job. In and out in about a half hour. The other cars affected are even easier to do since there is no trim to worry about.
 

troopertripp

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My drain tube on the drivers side shrank and came disconnected, causing flooding in my car. I had to spend $hundreds at a body shop for them to dis-assemble my a pillar trim and put an extension tube in so it would drain.

I knew to keep the drains open from reading about it here, years ago.
 

joetdi

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Spike Strip said:
Received mine today ...

Inspect, clean (if necessary), and modify drains.

Anyone know what the modification will be ?
Cutting the ends of the drains off.
 

PeterV

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I will forward my former 03's notice to the current owner.
 

Variant TDI

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The settlement claims it may also cover damage caused by water ingress.

I have had some flooding, and my drivers side crash sensor is fuxxored. I wonder if I can get them to replace that too. hmmm...
 

PDJetta

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02 Beetlw TDi Victim said:
I got the notice today too! Read it carefully! It says that,"The repair was caused by water entering the vehicle through the sunroof or plenum area."

Here is what my dealer put in their repair invoice:

"Customer states vehicle has water leaking in rear passenger side window. No leak present at this time. Inspected. Cleaned sunroof drains."

So I was screwed before they even started the suit! First they deny a leak: Well, d.s. of course it's not leaking, you're inside! But then they just went and cleaned out the drains anyway? On a lark? Gee, they didn't have historical evidence of this, just just thought it would be nice to give us a car with clean drains!

What a crock!

I specifically recall this visit. I also recall that they didn't clean the drains out well enough to stop the leak. I wound up doing that at home afterward! On my own, with the help and advice of those on this forum.

So, NO THANKS TO VW!, or to the stealership, Vordermann in Ft. Wayne, In.:p
Submit the claim form that is in the notice you got and dealer receipt for the work. Explain the issue and that it was not fixed. You just might get reimbursed for what you paid.

--Nate
 

PDJetta

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tadc said:
Why would they only cover the front drains? The rear ones are the real PITA.
Exactly! I just thought about this and I think because the fronts are real easy to get to (on the Golf the rear bumper cover has to be removed to get to the rear drains), this is why only the fronts are included. The fronts being clear must prevent most water leaks, even if the rear drains are clogged. If on level ground, water in the rear area may flow around the drip channel in the sunroof frame and drain out the front drains. VW is specifying it will do the minumum to satisfy those who it negotiated with (plantiffs' attorneys) to reach this settlement. VW probally argued that cleaning the fronts only would suffice and they must have convinced the attorneys that this was acceptable.

I am keeping my own drains clean. I park in a garage anyway.

Also, be forewarned: VW dealers will perform other open recalls on your car too without your knowledge or consent if you take your car in. If you do not want this done (think botched glow plug recal or EGR botched cooler replacement), do not turn your car over to them. It is so easy to snip the ends off the drain tubes yourself. I think that is all they do, after they run a cable through the tubes.

You can check the drains yourself. Open sunroof and pour water in the drip channel at each corner and watch for water to drain out at the A pillars (front) or the rear bumper area (rear drains).

--Nate
 

oilhammer

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There are just too many to list....
I have been circumcising sunroof drains for years on customers' cars that seemed to get clogged up easily due to trees and such where they park.

I just tickle the rest of them at every service, except the NBs that are kinda buried. I circumcise those any time I have to deal with them though.

I never had the recall done on the HVAC box in my Passat, but I did make sure all the cowl drains were cleaned when I replaced my battery.
 

MPBsr

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My notice for my 09 Jetta TDI says that it's only an added service maintenance at 40,000 to clean.
 

fruitcakesa

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Got my notice today. I have cleaned the drains once but I don't think I clipped the ends.
Do the rear drains exit behind the rear bumper on Jetta wagons too?
Does the bumper need to come off to inspect and clip?
 
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