Pennzoil Synthetic 5w-40 VW505 rated oil:

You may all already know this, but I came-across an oil that is VW 505.00 approved.

Pennzoil has a Synthetic 5W-40 that's fully VW 505 rated. I found it at my local Jiffylube, and was told all of them have it. The can has a yellow star on it saying "European Formula".

Tootles,


David

Who knows some more about this oil? I am getting discouraged because I can't find Delvac 1 anywherer around here. I've bee to about 8 places. No luck.

well, this issue just cam up yesterday and the oil kinda meets a TDI's needs.

Here's the spec sheet: pdf link

It says that it meets ACEA B3 and VW 505 so it should work. It's probably a similar formula to the Valvoline SynPower 5W-40 and the Quaker State Euro formula. These oils aren't the best for the TDI but they'll probably provide years of excellent service.

I don't understand. If VW wants an oil used that's VW505, and this oil is VW505, why isn't it the best for TDI engines?

I don't know that much about oils, and would like to know what would be better.

Thanks,


David

I don't understand. If VW wants an oil used that's VW505, and this oil is VW505, why isn't it the best for TDI engines?

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It could be the best, or it could be not the best (same goes for any other oil of the viscosity and ratings listed in the manual). Either way, it should be good enough for use in a TDI engine in typical service at the specified oil change intervals, since it meets at least one of the manual specifications.

[You can find Delvac1 locations at mobil.com]


HA I love it!

Volkswagen says, "Use VW 505.0 rated oil." (like Castrol and this new Pennzoil)
and the guys here say, "No! No! No! VW doesn't know what it's talking about. That oil's not good enough!"

No offense guys, but I think the VW engineers are most qualified to say, "VW505.0 oil is good." Although I prefer Delvac1 because it's easy to find and cheaper, I don't think anyone's going to kill their TDI if they use the VW505-rated Castrol or Pennzoil.

Yes...but, does it have Z-7?

I don't understand. If VW wants an oil used that's VW505, and this oil is VW505, why isn't it the best for TDI engines?

I don't know that much about oils, and would like to know what would be better.

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Group III (acceptable) versus Group IV (more than acceptable)

It's that simple.

Yes...but, does it have Z-7?

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What is that?

File Z-7 under the same heading as "liquid ball bearings" (another Pennzoil marketing gimick).

This is the 505.01 oil I found locally and am using (Motul x-clean 5w40):

https://www.motul.com/us/en-US/products/8100-x-clean-5w40

Dannyboy said:

Wow. 15 year revival that must be close to a record

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That is amazing. The tip off should have been that the OP referred to the oil being sold in a can.

I did check Penzoil's Euro recent offering and it doesn't actually have a VW approval, just a recommendation by Penzoil as usable in the place of VW 502.00 and VW 505.00. The way they listed it was pretty crafty. The specifications, approvals and recommendations are in one list. The only actual approval listed is for MB.
https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/prod...m_Euro_SAE_5W-40_Full_Synthetic_Motor_Oil.pdf

I found this site that is a cornucopia of knowledge about oil specs.
https://www.oilspecifications.org

I can see a thread like this evolving as new oils are introduced, and others go out of production.