washed engine, now hard to get into 3rd gear?

dalkins1

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2003 jetta
My 2003 jetta has 84k, with a 5spd. I have owned it for about 1 month. I washed the engine yesterday, now it is giving me trouble getting into 3rd gear and sometimes 4th. I sprayed amsoil grease all over the linkage thinking this would work,,,did not really fix the issue. Any suggestions?
 

bluesmoker

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Maple Ridge, B.C.
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2004 pd 5 speed tip
My 2003 jetta has 84k, with a 5spd. I have owned it for about 1 month. I washed the engine yesterday, now it is giving me trouble getting into 3rd gear and sometimes 4th. I sprayed amsoil grease all over the linkage thinking this would work,,,did not really fix the issue. Any suggestions?

automatic or manual?
 

Sooch

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Des Moines, IA
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2005 Golf
My 2003 jetta has 84k, with a 5spd. I have owned it for about 1 month. I washed the engine yesterday, now it is giving me trouble getting into 3rd gear and sometimes 4th. I sprayed amsoil grease all over the linkage thinking this would work,,,did not really fix the issue. Any suggestions?
You've got to get the lube to flow into the gaps between the nylon guide and the metal. Also make sure you get some to soak into the pivot points. It helps to work the shifter back and forth a few times, then spray, then move to reverse, spray some more, then some other gear. You want to get all of the exposed sliding surfaces coated.

A lot of times I use a hair dryer to heat up the area first, then use white lithium or other spray lube, then heat it a bit more to get the stuff to liquify slightly and creep into the gaps.
 

scurvy

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Chicago IL USA
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2006 Golf
I've had this happen once or twice after washing the engine. I think you may have gotten a little bit of water into the gear oil, but it will evaporate out after a couple days. Next time I try it, I'm going to cover the transmission breather with aluminum foil to see if that helps as well as using as little water as possible.
 

bluesmoker

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2004 pd 5 speed tip
I've had this happen once or twice after washing the engine. I think you may have gotten a little bit of water into the gear oil, but it will evaporate out after a couple days. Next time I try it, I'm going to cover the transmission breather with aluminum foil to see if that helps as well as using as little water as possible.
its best to change the oil out when water gets in there, water and oil mix to make mayonaise
 

scurvy

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Chicago IL USA
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2006 Golf
its best to change the oil out when water gets in there, water and oil mix to make mayonaise
After changing my gear oil twice before, it never looked like the typical mayonnaise-like emulsion of water & oil. I'm guessing a tiny bit of water got in there to make shifting go to poop for a couple days, but it always went back to shifting fine - could be something completely different, and it didn't always do so after washing the engine.

I dunno, I'm looking for correlation but would prefer causation.
 

motorinar

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Jetta Wagon BEW
My 2003 jetta has 84k, with a 5spd. I have owned it for about 1 month. I washed the engine yesterday, now it is giving me trouble getting into 3rd gear and sometimes 4th. I sprayed amsoil grease all over the linkage thinking this would work,,,did not really fix the issue. Any suggestions?
you need to realign the linkage. Google it for instructions.
 

motorinar

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Jetta Wagon BEW
here you go

Borrowing form DieselGeek :

[FONT=&quot]1. Lock the transmission into its "home" position. Right now, your black L-shaped locking lever is in the ”rest position” and should point to the left, just like in the picture. In the engine bay, make sure that the transmission is in neutral (in neutral the bronze front/back shift bracket is free to move up and down). With your right thumb, push down on the crescent-shaped part of the bronze lever approximately 1/3 of an inch and then with your forefinger turn the small black L-shaped locking lever on the transmission's shift tower clockwise while pushing it in. The tip of this black locking lever will end up pointing straight up when the shift mechanism is successfully placed in the locked or “home” position. You will also not be able to move the bronze front/back lever up and down if the transmission is locked into the “home” position.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]2. Expose the shift linkage inside the car. On New Beetle, grab the rectangular "ring" at the base perimeter of the shift boot and pull it upward. It will unsnap from the center console. Then lift the rubber sound deadening boot from the shifter aperture.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]3. Lock the mechanism inside the car into its “Home” position. Do this by inserting the expensive and rare special toolwe supplied with the kit into the hole at the lower left of the shift lever and push it through and into the corresponding hole in the shifter base until it bottoms out. This will give the appearance that the shifter is in second gear which is exactly correct. Also, the shift lever inside the car WILL NOT MOVE if you have successfully put the nail through both holes. If you don’t have the nail tool we provide with our kits, the special tool was made from a 4 inch long, 20d Bright Common nail with a 5 mm or .195” shank diameter and a 30 degree bend 2.5" from the tip of the nail to clear the shift knob.[/FONT]

4. Once you have locked the transmission into its “Home” position (Step 1) and also installed the adjustment nail through both holes inside the car (Step 3), Where you clamp the cable has everything to do with the proper adjustment of the shifter. Unlike the front to back cable end, SOME THREADS WILL BE SHOWING on the side to side cable end! If you are confident that you followed all of the steps before this one then you can finish the adjustment procedure by simply twisting the aluminum cable end to make it perpendicular to its mounting pin on the black bracket (its top slot will face straight up).

[FONT=&quot]5. Unlock the transmission from its “Home” position. While pushing down slightly on the bronze front/back bracket, pull the transmission’s L-shaped locking pin to the left and rotate it counter-clockwise until it comes back out to its “rest position” stop. It will move toward the right side (engine side) of the car by approximately ½ inch. (You are not removing the pin completely.) It is very important that you pull this pin back to the normal “rest position” since your shifter will not work with the pin pushed into the transmission’s “home” position! Furthermore, you will permanently damage the pin if you forcefully try to shift the mechanism with the pin pushed in! Please don’t forget to release the pin after adjustment. The mechanism will still function if you damage the plastic pin. The part number for the locking pin is 02J 301 358C and is available at your dealer for about $5.00. It is a pain to install, however. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]6. Unlock the mechanism inside the car from its “Home” position. Go back inside the car and remove completely the special bent nail tool from the shifter mechanism. Save the adjustment nail with your stock shifter parts.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]7. Check the shifter action by cycling through the gears. Make sure that first and second gear engage smoothly without too much effort. Also, make sure that reverse gear is easy to engage. (Make note that the shifter will always work its best with the engine running and the clutch pushed in.) [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]8. If all is smooth, reinstall the shift boot onto the shift boot frame ring inside the car. The New Beetle’s shift boot just pushes straight down into the aperture.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]9. Reinstall the air box. Reattach the flexible duct to the mass airflow sensor with the screw clamp (1.8T) or spring-type hose clamp (all other engines). Plug the electrical connector for the mass airflow sensor back in until it clicks. Reattach the engine side vacuum line for the air box (TDI) or reinstall the flexible air injection feed hose for all other engines. A positive air hose connection results in a little “click”. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]10. Start the engine and go for a ride[/FONT]
 

demox

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Montreal
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Jetta TDI 2000
I've had this happen once... right after a TB job
mech.... said I ll wash your engine .. (should have said thanks but no thanks)
what a mess.... trouble getting 2nd and 3rd..
next day I find the rubber plug that covers the transmission housing....TDC mark
indicator... sitting on the radiator.
It took almost a week to get back to normal.
 
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dalkins1

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May 25, 2010
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dfw
TDI
2003 jetta
Changed tranny fluid today and sprayed gease all over all of the linkage. It is shifting better now. I appreciate all of the responses with suggestions. I have been reading great info on this site for the last 4 weeks. It really helps out. I am going to tackle the intake and egr cleaning within the next week or so.

Thanks again.
 
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