VCDS doesnt display G581 Turbo Actuator Position Sensor Parameter

p5150

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2013 Passat SEL, 2006 Jetta (Sold)

p5150

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2013 Passat SEL, 2006 Jetta (Sold)
Please keep in mind that I have a couple of things disconnected. I need to be able to observe a real time readout of the voltage from the turbo vane position sensor while I actuate it.



VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3 (x64)
Data version: 20120401

Tuesday,10,April,2012,08:19:57:56012

Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: 3VWST81K86M681946 Mileage: 217730km/135291miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AB HW: 028 101 223 8
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG 7550
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2640551
Coding: 0050071
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 63EB633DA24E991

2 Faults Found:
000305 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1
P0131 - 000 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 217734 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 21:53:31

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2478 /min
Speed: 40.0 km/h
Load: 64.3 %
Mass Air / Rev.: 260.0 mg/str
(no units): 0.20
(no units): 0.0
Bin. Bits: 10001001

001027 - EGR Valve (N18)
P0403 - 000 - Malfunction - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 217737 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 22:13:55

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2142 /min
Speed: 78.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 0.0 %
Voltage: 14.36 V
Mass Air / Rev.: 450.0 mg/str
Duty Cycle: 0.0 %
Bin. Bits: 00000000

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Revision: 00T12001
Coding: 0021122
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 40A18CB11398E29

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 DL
Component: Climatic PQ35 090 0505
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 71C7197568B23B1

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D HW: 3C0 937 049 D
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000000154135
Coding: 14018E234004180000140000001400000008730B5C
Shop #: WSC 19303 444 00228
VCID: 2A75CE1985E4089

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0402
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 19303

2 Faults Found:
00987 - Lamp for Brake Light; Left (M9)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 168
Mileage: 217737 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 12.70 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00988 - Lamp for Brake Light; Right (M10)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 168
Mileage: 217737 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 13.20 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 E HW: 8E0 035 593 E
Component: SDAR XM H03 0080
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7E0033059
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B7BCB1D8A1E111

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 154
Mileage: 159925 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:11:43

02788 - Internal Communications Error
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 208
Mileage: 159925 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:11:42

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000010
Bin. Bits: 00000000


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E HW: 1K0 909 605 E
Component: 1R AIRBAG VW8R 024 6300
Revision: 03024000 Serial number: 0037KD03TUGZ
Coding: 0012626
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2E7DC209B90C649

Part No: 1K0 959 339 E
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0005

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
Component: J0527 034 0070
Coding: 0000021
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 78D124510BC86A9

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 952 D
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1212
Coding: 0023203
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2B7BCB1D8A1E111

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H10 0120
Revision: H10 Serial number: 28001057218740
Coding: 3D3F0B60071002
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2A75CE1985E4089

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 952 D
Component: IMMO 3HL 1212
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B7BCB1D8A1E111

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 364DEA69415C5C9

1 Fault Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D04 1606
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3245D679AD34409

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 AF
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 137803281B09050F880F048051A0
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 74C9106117A00E9

Component: Sounder n.mounted

Component: NGS n.mounted

Component: IRUE n.mounted

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 3753E76D4656A51

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 C HW: 1K0 035 180 C
Component: Radio DE2 011 0014
Revision: 00011000 Serial number: VWZ4Z7E2040507
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 20612C31F3D8C29

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 3147D975A8327B1

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 3245D679AD34409

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D7FC505B40A1F1

No fault code found.

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Uwe

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VCDS can only show you what the car knows, and even more importantly, what the engineers at the factory decided it should divulge to a scan tool. As far as I can tell, feedback from this sensor is not available in your engine.

-Uwe-
 

p5150

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2013 Passat SEL, 2006 Jetta (Sold)
Sorry for the confusion. I just received my Bentley and its the G500 sensor not the G581. I found it in Group 43 Block 2 in a readout of % not voltage. I would have helped to have this labeled appropriately in the VCDS software.
 

fanw01

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2012 Passat SE tdi
Sorry for the confusion. I just received my Bentley and its the G500 sensor not the G581. I found it in Group 43 Block 2 in a readout of % not voltage. I would have helped to have this labeled appropriately in the VCDS software.
I just loaded my Ross-Tech software on my laptop and did an auto scan. I am also trouble shooting a P0299 under boost condition and was looking in group 11 to cycle the N75 valve but it looks like this group is not available for the BRM 1.9 tdi. I also looked in my Bentley book and the actuator is called Turbocharger Vane Position Sensor (G500). I am trying to become more familiar with VCDS. Where did you find the information that indicated that Group 43 Block 2 is the read out for the sensor? Does anyone know if you can cycle the N75 valve on the BRM 1.9 tdi with Ross-Tech VCDS software 11.11.3?

 

p5150

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I think that when you run the test for the turbo actuator it uses the N75 valve while the rpms go up and down. There's also a separate test specific to the N75 valve but I cant tell you exactly how to get there without going and plugging into the car.
 

Gadgeteering

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Location
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Seat IBIZA
Testing Turbo Actuator Position Sensor

After diagnosing a Turbo Actuator with a leak in the diaphragm I replaced it and a different fault occurred a Boost circuit fault now appeared.
After carrying out the setup procedure using a vacuum applied to the actuator and setting the rod length so that the inlet guide vanes were at the max, the car performed well, but the coil light was flashing.
As the position sensor output is not view able in VCDS, I measured the output of the position sensor at Pin 2 and found that it was a constant 5 volts.
The old actuator was tested and it was found to have an output range of between 0.3 to 3.8 volts dependent on the vacuum applied to it.
It is suspected that the new was a bad one from stock, although it is from the OEM.

Hopefully this information is helpful to someone with the same problem.

 
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Gadgeteering

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Ebay Parts

One year after fitting a replacement Turbo Actuator the fault reocurred. The actuator had developed a leak from the lower rubber seal around the actuator control rod. It turned out this replacement part from Ebay, was a cheap pattern part.
 
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