<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Detroit Diesel is part of Daimler-Chrysler.Originally posted by Smithers:
The article I read says that the engine is made by Detroit Diesel.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't comment on the Liberty but Jeeps in general are good vehicles. We have a '95 Cherokee with inline 6.As far as I know it's a Merc engine. So it should be good. The problem is that the liberty is still a chrysler. Watch out for tranny problems. The engine should last forever, providing maintenance is kept up, and it is taken care of. My only gripe is that the 2.8L isn't in the C-class, but in the POS liberty.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I haven't heard this. I personally know two people (one is my father) who have the older Jeep Cherokee with the 2.5 litre IDI VM Motori turbo diesel engine.Originally posted by Roadrunner6:
In Europe, the Liberty (called "Cherokee" here) can have two diesel motorisations : a 2,5 CRD and 2,8 l CRD. The former "Grand Cherokee" had a 3,1 l CRD, which has been replaced by a 2.7 l CDI (Mercedes). The were a lot of problems with the old engine. The denomination "CRD" refers to VM engines -(( And Mercedes doesn't have any 2,5 or 2,8 diesel engine, so, the two new engines are most probably made by VM. Maybe not the best choice !
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yep, GM created Detroit Diesel, then I remember they used to place "GM" on the intake of the older 71 series engines that were installed in pre 1970's GM motorcoaches.Originally posted by Harvieux:
Hi Folks, GM must have sold Detroit Diesel because DD used to be owned or majority held by them. My sister's father in law (God rest his soul) was one of their top engineers and he was so good, they never really let him retire because they would always ask him to do one more project, and then another, etc. Later!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think Ford has stuck with Navistar because they've been supplying their diesel engine since 1983. Plus, despite the fuel injection problems, most PS owners love their trucks so why change? Ford could easily have designed a smaller diesel engine for it's pickup from one of it's HD designs.Originally posted by Harvieux:
Hi Beezle, The new Duramax engine in the GM trucks are Izusu (spelling?). The auto trannies are Allison. I remember when there was the combination to the name Detroit Diesel Allison. Most know that Cummins is or used to be majority held by Ford. I heard lot's of reasons why Ford doesn't use Cummins in their line up. One reason is DC has a long contract another is Ford is satisfied with the International PSD. Who really knows for sure? Regarding bullet proff combo. The Izusu DMD was actually a bit too strong for the Allison and there have been problems after 30K miles of heavy duty hauling. GM was turning down some power on the engine but, also heard it wasn't turned down quite enough. I do not know if this, so called problem has been rectified. I would imagine that it's like everything else, some do and some don't, like the VW TDI A4 MAFS. Later!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I remember back in the mid 70's when Cat had those in-line 325 and 425 HP engines that had the single cast iron head instead of the newer multi-head system. Talk about bullet proff! Later!As far as heavy duty engines go, detroit diesels have a proven record over both cummins and international, but not sure about mercedes. They are durable, bullet-proof, and last forever.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PackRat:
Plus, despite the fuel injection problems, most PS owners love their trucks so why change? Ford could easily have designed a smaller diesel engine for it's pickup from one of it's HD designs.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WVWSP61:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PackRat:
Plus, despite the fuel injection problems, most PS owners love their trucks so why change? Ford could easily have designed a smaller diesel engine for it's pickup from one of it's HD designs.