now this isn't related to BioD, but it spreads the message of decreasing oil reliance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBykAngDpY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBykAngDpY
slote said:Keep this in mind when considering electricity: where's it come from. Most of our electricity right now comes from burning coal, also not a renewable resource. Nuclear power, wind, hydro are all good sources too, but don't make up as much of the market. I'm not saying electricity isn't better, just that it's no holy grail when it comes to cars. Also, I'm part of the 10%, so I could be biased.
Add a plug-in to that diesel hybrid so we can charge the batts from home with roof mounted PVs and micro windmills, fuel it with the B100 from the biod plant 2 miles down the road..... and I believe we are close to were we need to be.NFSTDI said:... What we need is a Diesel Hybrid that we can run on BIO. Now that would be a more efficient use of resources.
This statement is nearly as dated as that Dump truck with which people ignorantly judge your TDI. Coal has come a long way.VEGASTDI said:Thank you.........not only is coal produced electricity dirty
From a secret agreement between GW and the Devil, all the Lead Acid batteries from Hybrid cars will end up stored in William Jefferson's freezer. Don't worry... there will be plenty of room after the money was removed... even if Hybrid sales reach into the millions.as with the hybrids what do you do with all the lead based batteries when it's time??
Phew... and all this time, I thought that non-electric cars required plastic and rubber too.Won't even get into the petroleum based plastics and rubber used to produce the electric cars........
I know it's not a diesel, but a step in the right direction...RC said:Add a plug-in to that diesel hybrid so we can charge the batts from home with roof mounted PVs and micro windmills, fuel it with the B100 from the biod plant 2 miles down the road..... and I believe we are close to were we need to be.
You're right, and the country did NOT suffer a major black out a few years back due to an antiquated electrical grid, and coal is a clean renewable energy source.....Variant TDI said:This statement is nearly as dated as that Dump truck with which people ignorantly judge your TDI. Coal has come a long way..
Sorry, your attempt at humor escapes me...............I have yet to see any PROOF that the TOTAL (not just the initial )eco savings of an electric car was that different than a 40 MPG gasoline or 50 MPG diesel car.Variant TDI said:From a secret agreement between GW and the Devil, all the Lead Acid batteries from Hybrid cars will end up stored in William Jefferson's freezer. Don't worry... there will be plenty of room after the money was removed... even if Hybrid sales reach into the millions...
Variant TDI said:Phew... and all this time, I thought that non-electric cars required plastic and rubber too.
david_594 said:The point is there are plenty of clean ways to get electricy.
One of these is not related to the other. Unless you can prove that it was the "dirty" coal plants that caused the grid to fail....VEGASTDI said:You're right, and the country did NOT suffer a major black out a few years back due to an antiquated electrical grid, and coal is a clean renewable energy source.....
Go to school. Read a book. Learn about batteries before you open your mouth. Your initial statement was complete ignorance and your rebuttal was so off target that you hit the barn down the street.Sorry, your attempt at humor escapes me...............I have yet to see any PROOF that the TOTAL (not just the initial )eco savings of an electric car was that different than a 40 MPG gasoline or 50 MPG diesel car.
Sorry you can't keep up.Again, your sarcasm is lost on me............
um, according to my dealer/salesman - that may be the '08 jetta!!NFSTDI said:Those RAVS are a gold mine! One recently sold on eBay for sixty-seven thousand dollars! They sold new for thirty-two. Now that's what I call a great investment.
Electric cars have thier place although Hybrids are more practical for most would be EV owners. What we need is a Diesel Hybrid that we can run on BIO. Now that would be a more efficient use of resources.
Variant TDI said:One of these is not related to the other. Unless you can prove that it was the "dirty" coal plants that caused the grid to fail....
Go to school. Read a book. Learn about batteries before you open your mouth. Your initial statement was complete ignorance and your rebuttal was so off target that you hit the barn down the street.
Sorry you can't keep up.
Lead acid? Does any application where capacity and space are the 2 biggest constraints use lead acid?VEGASTDI said:Right now it's lead acid..........How about we dispose of 'em in your back yard????
david_594 said:Lead acid? Does any application where capacity and space are the 2 biggest constraints use lead acid?
Arnt most hybrid cars out there Ni-MH? So maybe you are the one who is a little off base.
Also, your exable about all these extra cars on the grid will kill the grid.... Have you ever heard of peak and off peak hours? During the day, everyone is at work, everyone has AC going. At night everything gets shut off, AC use is significantly less, lights are off. Now when exactly do you think they anticipate these vehicles being charged? During the day when electric rates are higher? when its sittig in the parking lot at work? Or at night when electric rates are lower and the vehicle is sitting in the garage or driveway at home?
Ummm, you're the one that chose to live in the middle of the Mojave desert.VEGASTDI said:As far as A/C useage..........wish I could shut mine off at night!!! Hasn't been dropping below 90* here for a while...LOL!!!
There are alot of places that might become difficult to inhabit once the cheap, easy to obtain energy and water are cut off.DrStink said:... Shall we discuss the environmental impact 1.6 million people deciding to live in a place that only gets 4 inches of annual rainfall? Shhh. No one mention the elephant in the middle of living room.
I try to take my living in rural, backward leaning Kentucky in perspective. Watching New Jersey shut down its corrupt government arguing over a 1% increase in sales taxes gives me pause....DrStink said:Ummm, you're the one that chose to live in the middle of the Mojave desert.
Shall we discuss the environmental impact 1.6 million people deciding to live in a place that only gets 4 inches of annual rainfall? Shhh. No one mention the elephant in the middle of living room.
damn you physics!!!1DodgeCummins said:Then a guy told me it's against the Laws of Physics. Free Energy won't work.
Did you look that up in a book? Or did you look it up in your gut?MrErlo said:damn you physics!!!1