CKRA Motor Swap; Fuel Pump Not Turning On: Code: B103E

joshferrer

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 6, 2018
Location
Ontario, CA
TDI
2014 VW Passat TDI SEL (CKRA)
This was posted in the new user section of Ross-Tech (I don't have a registered user, yet) about 12 hours ago but no response yet. I'll try here too.

Long story short, I swapped the motor on my 2014 Passat TDI due to a timing failure that caused all of the rockers to break and bent valves.

I have the new motor in now and ready to go. New filters and fluids are in. Quadruple checked all of the lines and ground and everything seems good.

I am trying to prime the pump to get all of the air out of the lines and fuel ready to go. It's the last thing now before I can attempt to crank it. I can't seem to get the pumps to turn on. I noticed that my fuel gauge does not move and it shows empty. I know I have at least half a tank of diesel in there. I keep getting the code B103E. I wonder if that has anything to do. Maybe a bad sensor? Thoughts? Would a bad sensor cause the fuel pump not to start?

When I did hook the battery up to the charger, the positive and negative wires touched for a second, which blew a fuse. I replaced the fuse. All fuses are good now. Could blowing the fuse blown something with the fuel pump too?

Thoughts? Any help would greatly be appreciated!

Fyi, the car is currently on jack stands with the front wheels off and the front bumper off as well, which is why the other codes come up.
Code:
Tuesday,11,February,2020,15:07:14:01727
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VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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VIN: 1VWCN7A39EC036871
Mileage: 202470km-125809mi

Chassis Type: A3-VW41 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2B 2E 36 37 42 44 46 47 4F
52 56 62 72 75 77

VIN: 1VWCN7A39EC036871   Mileage: 202470km-125809miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CKRA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
Part No SW: 03L 997 009 J    HW: 03L 907 309 S
Component: R4 2.0l TDI   X24 9982  
Revision: 71X24---    Serial number:               
Coding: 001D0012042400008000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009J 004005
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009J.rod
VCID: 3B5BE0ACB2631F97B2-806E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 X 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 02E 300 062 B    HW: 02E 927 770 AT
Component: GSG DSG AG6     541 9437  
Revision: 06454104    Serial number: 00001711111559
Coding: 0000024
Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
VCID: 14096B10377D30EF13-8040

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
Revision: 00H31001    
Coding: C54BC0F549258000A31303EB921A0142A71000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 7DDF2EB4E4F7D1A7CC-8028

1 Fault Found:
01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502) 
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:07:46
Freeze Frame:
Count: 3
Count: 14
Count: 20480
Count: 16390
Count: 41984
Count: 0
Count: 261
Count: 0

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 B    HW: 5K0 959 434 
Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 086 1101  
Revision: 00086000    Serial number: 0194028681
Coding: 130C0C
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02013
ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
VCID: 3449CB909F3DD0EF73-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 561 907 044 AB    HW: 561 907 044 AB
Component: Climatronic   H03 0505  
Revision: 00001K01    
Coding: 0030019012
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411 A01001
ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411_VW41.rod
VCID: 57935C1C2E0BDBF7B6-8002

1 Fault Found:
9481200 - Refrigerant Pressure 
B10AB F0 [009] - Too Low
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Date: 2020.02.11
Time: 10:42:02

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AE    HW: 5K0 937 087 AE
Component: BCM PQ35 H+   122 0173  
Revision: BL122001    
Coding: EF200E1B982B08D4098802003600818800F1A086458015B064806000BC70
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 78D13FA0CBD5F48F9F-802C

10 Faults Found:
00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29) 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:23

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:23

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01493 - Bulb for Blinkers; Front Left (M5) 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:23

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01495 - Bulb for High-Beams; Left (M30) 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:23

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22) 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:23

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01497 - Bulb for Blinkers; Front Right (M7) 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:23

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01499 - Bulb for High-Beams; Right (M32) 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:23

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01500 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Right (L23) 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:23

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

03188 - Bulb for Side Marker Light; Front Left 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:24

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

03189 - Bulb for Side Marker Light; Front Right 
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:11:24

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AE    HW: 5C0 959 655 AE
Component: AirbagVW10G   014 0851  
Serial number: 003MWM02X4B0  
Coding: 00005033
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
VCID: 75CF3694D4C789E784-8020

Seat occupied recognition: 
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
Serial number: 6940000Y130000Y1PN0B
Coding: 303047

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
Serial number: 3572MSME012F157DZZZ.

Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
Serial number: 3582MSME4876217DZZZ%

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
Serial number: 3516KSME72374027ZZZL

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
Serial number: 3526KSME72084A27ZZZU

2 Faults Found:
9443861 - Driver's Front Airbag Crash Sensor 
B101A 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 202475 km
Date: 2020.02.11
Time: 11:08:23

9444117 - Front Passenger's Front Airbag Crash Sensor 
B101B 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 202475 km
Date: 2020.02.11
Time: 11:08:23

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AR    HW: 5K0 953 569 E
Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20130724101549
Coding: 000A140000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
VCID: 7DDF2EB4ECF7D1A7CC-8028

Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 561 920 970 G    HW: 561 920 970 G
Component: KOMBI         H04 0811  
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 231E01
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04721
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 1E1D093801B16ABFB5-804A

1 Fault Found:
9453074 - Fuel Level Sensor 1 
B103E 1B [009] - Resistance Too High
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Date: 2020.02.11
Time: 11:08:52

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AM    HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
Component: J533  Gateway H55 1642  
Revision:   H55       Serial number: 22091303001059
Coding: 461000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 7BDB20ACFAE3DF97F2-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
Component: IMMO          H04 0811  
Serial number:               
Coding: 000007
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: 6AF515E88D79561F19-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 13000153738004
Coding: 4900000000000000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
VCID: 3041C7806B25ECCF17-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3

Cannot be reached

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
Part No SW: 561 959 760 B    HW: 561 959 760 B
Component: MEM-FS        H04 0182  
Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000073459042
Coding: 00581B0000000000000021010100202020202120202020
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 22653DC83DC94E5F91-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 K    HW: 3C0 035 684 K
Component: RNS-MID       H30 5382  
Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7U9215004
Coding: 04090042010000A6000B
Shop #: WSC 12835 002 1048576
VCID: 2B7BD0EC4A038F1722-807E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
Component: NAR V6  7963 

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 561 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0525  
Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0007297260
Coding: 0405FD
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
VCID: 1C19033017AD78AF5B-8048

Slave Driver: 
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 811 B    HW: 561 959 811 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5470 
Serial number: 14102630130924083353
Coding: 800000

1 Fault Found:
131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator 
B11EE 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Date: 2020.02.11
Time: 11:09:50

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 290    3501  
Revision: 00H22000    
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3957FAA4705F2D87A0-806C

1 Fault Found:
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid 
000 - - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 202475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.04
Time: 11:10:07

Freeze Frame:
Battery Volts: 11.7 V
DD
Temperature: 30.0∞C
Count: 2
Steering Angle: 0.00∞
Count: 0
SteerAng n.Init

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 A    HW: 5C6 035 456 A
Component: KonzernAmp10K H07 6813  
Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098A0068803
ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3.rod
VCID: 266D21D859E1B27FFD-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
Component: EZE_2         H55 1642  
Revision:   H55       Serial number: 22091303001059
Coding: 01030108
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 6FC304FCBE9BB3374E-803A

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 591     HW: 561 959 591 
Component: J245 P05 FFD7  H07 0004 
Serial number: 53388786011310301199
Coding: 181100

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 561 919 204 B    HW: 561 919 204 B
Component: Analoguhr  008 0005 

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 561 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0525  
Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0007326046
Coding: 0405FC
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
VCID: 1D1F0E340CB771A7AC-8048

Slave Passenger: 
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 812 B    HW: 561 959 812 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5470 
Serial number: 14202631130923211956
Coding: 800000

1 Fault Found:
131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator 
B11EE 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Date: 2020.02.11
Time: 11:10:22

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 K    HW: 3C0 035 684 K
Component: RNS-MID       H30 5382  
Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7U9215004
Coding: 04090042010000A6000B
Shop #: WSC 12835 002 1048576
VCID: 2B7BD0EC4A038F1722-807E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
Component: NAR V6  7963 

No fault code found.

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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 12E-035-284.clb
Part No SW: 561 035 285     HW: 561 035 285 
Component: OCULowUSA     014 0086  
Serial number: 000003554140506
Coding: 02140102C2423A007F1606000000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULow 001010
ROD: EV_OCULow_001.rod
VCID: 538BA80C3AF3F7D74A-8006

1 Fault Found:
2103041 - Control Module 
B1788 F0 [009] - Start Prohibition Deactivated
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 8
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 202475 km
Date: 2020.02.11
Time: 11:11:07

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
Component: TELEFON       H05 0315  
Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665083935
Coding: 0A10030080010110
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
VCID: 2E7DD9F87111FA3F05-807A

No fault code found.

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c3kTDi

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 3, 2019
Location
Undisclosed
TDI
2015 Passat
Try to jump the lift pump (in-tank fuel pump) directly with 12v. Just to see if the pump can operate.

I have not worked on my 2015 TDi's fuel pump, but I have worked on several other VW fuel pumps. Giving 12 volts and hearing it work allows you to troubleshoot more effectively. (Four wires are usual: two for power, two for float sensor. The outside pair are the usual pump power wires.)

It should be pretty simple to just lift the rear seat and access the pump cover.

After that...relay and/or fuse.
 

joshferrer

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 6, 2018
Location
Ontario, CA
TDI
2014 VW Passat TDI SEL (CKRA)
Try to jump the lift pump (in-tank fuel pump) directly with 12v. Just to see if the pump can operate.

I have not worked on my 2015 TDi's fuel pump, but I have worked on several other VW fuel pumps. Giving 12 volts and hearing it work allows you to troubleshoot more effectively. (Four wires are usual: two for power, two for float sensor. The outside pair are the usual pump power wires.)

It should be pretty simple to just lift the rear seat and access the pump cover.

After that...relay and/or fuse.


Okay so the lift pump turns on when I directly connected it to 12v.

While disconnected, I decided to test the power coming into the connector to the pump as well to make sure there wasn’t any power issues coming in. With the ignition on, and in vcds priming the pump, there is 9v power coming in to the connector.

Checked fuses and the fuses and relays are all fine.

I decided to disconnect the fuel level sender. I then connected the lift pump without the level sender on and tried to run it since power is good going to it. It wouldn’t turn on.

The pump is good and turns on it’s own. Could it be a bad sensor causing it not to turn on when connected to the car?

On my way to go pick up a fuel level sender from the dealer to install to see if that changes anything.

Thoughts?


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thundershorts

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Jul 15, 2010
Location
west chester pa
TDI
2015 passat tdi sel premium 2015 golf s tdi gls tdi b5.5, 2002 eurovan,Peugeot 505 td,Citroen cx25 prestige
pump and fuel level float are one unit. 300 list price approx
 

joshferrer

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 6, 2018
Location
Ontario, CA
TDI
2014 VW Passat TDI SEL (CKRA)
pump and fuel level float are one unit. 300 list price approx

You can disconnect it and take it off separately. I know because I took mine off and just picked one up.

My pump is fine so the level sensor is all I needed.

$120 at the dealer. I was okay with paying that because I wanted it now.


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joshferrer

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Joined
Jun 6, 2018
Location
Ontario, CA
TDI
2014 VW Passat TDI SEL (CKRA)
Update:

I put the new level sensor on it but kept the lift pump outside the tank because I didn’t want to get the new sensor dirty in the event it didn’t work and I could just return it. I plugged the connector on it to see if I could get it to start and clear the code. Still nothing.

So I decided to put the old sensor back on, put the lift pump back into the tank and plug it back in. I manually, with the 12v battery, turned the pump on for a few minutes to get fuel flowing.

At this point I figured I’d try to crank it.

Immediately when trying to crank it, the fuel gauge switched on and the lift pump turned on its own the second I pushed the on button.

I could now activate the pump through VCDS.

Weird that it wouldn’t before trying to crank it.

I cleared the code and it went away!

I then bled the injectors and the car started right away!

All is good now.

I still find it weird that I couldn’t turn the pump on before but oh well, it works now!


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Herkypilot

Active member
Joined
Oct 28, 2005
Location
NC
TDI
'14 Passat TDI SE w/DSG
Congrats on getting that all put together. Do you have any idea how your timing was off on the timing belt change that frag'ed your original motor? It sounds like you have some mechanical talent changing out your engine, so it's somewhat of a confidence killer for shade tree mechanics thinking of doing their own timing belt replacement.
 
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