oil_me
Veteran Member
It's time to get my project on the pages. A BN VW TDI long block(AHU) came up for sale in '08. I scarfed it up being a diesel only guy with the intent of putting it in some kind of undetermined project.
Audi B3s have become very affordable and I bought my first one an '89 80q last fall from a
fellow Geek. I got it running well, then found the project car in CA.
A 1991 80q http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37671&hilit=glacier+blue+80
I've always done my own car work and have never had a garage; this time I have a shed roof kind of space and an old pool shed for cover as well. Working outdoors adds a sporting nature to the challenge of the swap! Thanks all who've put up with my questions and requests.
I want to make the car simple to maintain so the power steering and ABS is nixed as well as the driver electric window changed to manual regulator. The other list of parts includes JH shifter, EFI solid shifter linkage, intercooler & tubing, 034 Delrin CA bushings, 034 solid subframe mounts, fuel filter bracket, new Bilsteins HDs, A4 v6 trans., Urq rear diff., solid rear diff mount, rear driveshafts w/ 108 inners for the Urq diff., Spec. Stage 1 clutch & pressure plate, TDI starter, K14 turbo. I'm using stock 4 cylinder parts for the radiator & motor mounts.
One of the major parts to this swap is creating a 4cyl quattro subframe that only exists in EU.
I've decided to use stock 4cylinder mounts which are part of the subframe on B3 4cyl. cars. I cut the engine mounting "tabs" from a 4 cylinder subframe and am having them welded them onto a 5cyl quattro subframe. (I haven't a welder)
4 cylinder subframe
5 cylinder quattro subframe
Measure twice ; weld once.
Revised subframe (crappy pic, sorry)
First step on the new motor was changing the oil pan. I had 2 choices; stamped steel, or A4 1.8t cast aluminum and I went with the steel. A little less capacity but more road hazard proof; a problem where I live.
I used an oil pan windage baffle integrated in the gasket for the bottom end. Last year I parted my B4 Passat TDI and kept the 1Z motor/trans. I'm using all the ancillary stuff from the old over to the new. This ran beautifully with 215k when I retired it
I'm painting the tin along with the "new" subframe with Urethane moisture curing paint & primer from http://www.masterseriescoatings.com/index/ recommended by a restorer.
The injection pump is on , pump timing set. Stock 80 2.0 flywheel with spec Stage 1 clutch installed.
The engine is ready to go in at this point.
There are many other other details to come. A slightly more complete thread is on MotorGeek:http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=574460#p574460
Rich
I've been swapping drivetrains in and out of VW's for 35+ years; the bodies get rusted out or crashed and then it's find another good body & repeat. I've had been exclusive to VW's all this time save for 2 Chevy trucks ; a '58 Apache and a '71 plow truck, had over 20 beetles, 4 squarebacks, fastback, 1 '65 kombi, 3 german rabbits, loved my diesel vanagon, with my favorite cars being the 4 Dashers.
I would put 250 to 300k on each and really preferred the VW B1 inline setup. Loved the German/A2s as well. The '85 Jetta diesel was the best car VW ever made IMO; retired one @420k, 44 mpg every tank. I was never interested in Audis as they were too $$$ and had way too many accessories, too much $tatu$/comfort/complexity compared to a VW. I took my son to Germany in '98, we visited all the car factories and auto museums we could in 3 weeks, one of which was the Audi factory in Ingolstadt. Unbelieveably complex; beautiful. We did the tour 2x. Back then a customer could watch their car built and drive it out the door. Anyway like I said being a diesel only guy, I always dreamed of an AWD diesel built simply.
I assembled a '99.5 Jetta TDI in '08 that needed a motor, and did a lot of mods to it; 149hp/268lb/ft, gets 48 mpg like clockwork. Even with the Shine suspension it's just bland & Honda-ish, handles like her a** is too fat, I'm sorry to say. My B4 Passat TDI; another VW treasure; I adored, but like all VWs it started to rot.
FF to 2010 when I discovered the 01A trans with its universality of engine choices; the Audi B3 with its inherent rust-proof, safe, innovative/timeless body, the existence of Motorgeek, and the project was born.
In 2008, I found a factory mechanical 12mm AGK TDI injection pump from a VW LT at a Bosch repair center in Berlin and my GF's 82 year old aunt brought it home for me via Zlinn, Czech Republic. I had it rebuilt again by Giles Gallie @ Performance Diesel Injection and set up for my application.
I would put 250 to 300k on each and really preferred the VW B1 inline setup. Loved the German/A2s as well. The '85 Jetta diesel was the best car VW ever made IMO; retired one @420k, 44 mpg every tank. I was never interested in Audis as they were too $$$ and had way too many accessories, too much $tatu$/comfort/complexity compared to a VW. I took my son to Germany in '98, we visited all the car factories and auto museums we could in 3 weeks, one of which was the Audi factory in Ingolstadt. Unbelieveably complex; beautiful. We did the tour 2x. Back then a customer could watch their car built and drive it out the door. Anyway like I said being a diesel only guy, I always dreamed of an AWD diesel built simply.
I assembled a '99.5 Jetta TDI in '08 that needed a motor, and did a lot of mods to it; 149hp/268lb/ft, gets 48 mpg like clockwork. Even with the Shine suspension it's just bland & Honda-ish, handles like her a** is too fat, I'm sorry to say. My B4 Passat TDI; another VW treasure; I adored, but like all VWs it started to rot.
FF to 2010 when I discovered the 01A trans with its universality of engine choices; the Audi B3 with its inherent rust-proof, safe, innovative/timeless body, the existence of Motorgeek, and the project was born.
In 2008, I found a factory mechanical 12mm AGK TDI injection pump from a VW LT at a Bosch repair center in Berlin and my GF's 82 year old aunt brought it home for me via Zlinn, Czech Republic. I had it rebuilt again by Giles Gallie @ Performance Diesel Injection and set up for my application.
Audi B3s have become very affordable and I bought my first one an '89 80q last fall from a
fellow Geek. I got it running well, then found the project car in CA.
A 1991 80q http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37671&hilit=glacier+blue+80
I've always done my own car work and have never had a garage; this time I have a shed roof kind of space and an old pool shed for cover as well. Working outdoors adds a sporting nature to the challenge of the swap! Thanks all who've put up with my questions and requests.
I want to make the car simple to maintain so the power steering and ABS is nixed as well as the driver electric window changed to manual regulator. The other list of parts includes JH shifter, EFI solid shifter linkage, intercooler & tubing, 034 Delrin CA bushings, 034 solid subframe mounts, fuel filter bracket, new Bilsteins HDs, A4 v6 trans., Urq rear diff., solid rear diff mount, rear driveshafts w/ 108 inners for the Urq diff., Spec. Stage 1 clutch & pressure plate, TDI starter, K14 turbo. I'm using stock 4 cylinder parts for the radiator & motor mounts.
One of the major parts to this swap is creating a 4cyl quattro subframe that only exists in EU.
I've decided to use stock 4cylinder mounts which are part of the subframe on B3 4cyl. cars. I cut the engine mounting "tabs" from a 4 cylinder subframe and am having them welded them onto a 5cyl quattro subframe. (I haven't a welder)
4 cylinder subframe
5 cylinder quattro subframe
Measure twice ; weld once.
Revised subframe (crappy pic, sorry)
First step on the new motor was changing the oil pan. I had 2 choices; stamped steel, or A4 1.8t cast aluminum and I went with the steel. A little less capacity but more road hazard proof; a problem where I live.
I used an oil pan windage baffle integrated in the gasket for the bottom end. Last year I parted my B4 Passat TDI and kept the 1Z motor/trans. I'm using all the ancillary stuff from the old over to the new. This ran beautifully with 215k when I retired it
I'm painting the tin along with the "new" subframe with Urethane moisture curing paint & primer from http://www.masterseriescoatings.com/index/ recommended by a restorer.
The injection pump is on , pump timing set. Stock 80 2.0 flywheel with spec Stage 1 clutch installed.
The engine is ready to go in at this point.
There are many other other details to come. A slightly more complete thread is on MotorGeek:http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=574460#p574460
Rich
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