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KLICHO · Aug 7, 2017

KLICHO said:
Hello. I search information about 3 turbo's GTD1549vz GTC1549vz and BV43A i need informaton
intake:
inducer:
exducer:
AR
exhaust
inducer :
exducer :

Nobody knows ?

3L3M3NT · Aug 10, 2017

ryanp said:
GTD2060 - turbine is smaller, compressor has 63mm extended tip. They work well but not night and day compared to older GTB2260. GTD1752vrk on the other hand is VERY good.

I'm going to test GTD2263vzk, hopefully it makes more power

Ryan any chance you're coming out with a kit for 1.9/2.0 TDI that will utilize the GTD1752vrk? It just seems like the perfect turbo for our engine.

ryanp · Aug 11, 2017

3L3M3NT said:
Ryan any chance you're coming out with a kit for 1.9/2.0 TDI that will utilize the GTD1752vrk? It just seems like the perfect turbo for our engine.

Its a possibility but this would be a little more expensive to build than a normal GTD2260 kit so as long as there is a market we can do it!

sam- · Aug 11, 2017

ryanp said:
Its a possibility but this would be a little more expensive to build than a normal GTD2260 kit so as long as there is a market we can do it!

Hello,

As you mention GTD2260 and garrett website refering size up to GTD22, i bet its oem turbo but on which car please ? I own a GTD2060VZ actually.

Also would you share some info about the turbo you're using on the arosa (GTD2874VR) please ?

Thanks in advance

3L3M3NT · Aug 16, 2017

ryanp said:
Its a possibility but this would be a little more expensive to build than a normal GTD2260 kit so as long as there is a market we can do it!

Any more info on the GTD2260 kit, since I've heard the new GTD series turbos respond better than the older ones did. I'm looking into the future on what to replace my VNT-17/22 with and I was originally thinking the GTD1752vrk would be the perfect turbo for a daily driver, but now you have me intrigued by the GTD2260 kit.

fergyp · Oct 2, 2017

Does any no induced exducer on gtc1549vz

X-Man · Oct 2, 2017

fergyp said:
Does any no induced exducer on gtc1549vz

36.4mm

fergyp · Oct 2, 2017

X-Man said:
36.4mm

Is the shaft diameter 5.08mm

X-Man · Oct 2, 2017

fergyp said:
Is the shaft diameter 5.08mm

no 4.08mm from the top of my head

majesty78 · Oct 2, 2017

X-Man said:
no 4.08mm from the top of my head

Correct, small frame GTC has very slim shaft....

fergyp · Oct 2, 2017

majesty78 said:
Correct, small frame GTC has very slim shaft....

Where could I get a billet compressor wheel

majesty78 · Oct 2, 2017

I am sure there are some turbo shops in UK who have something to offer.

Keep in mind, changing the compressor wheel needs VSR balancing after replacement of the wheel.

Turbo Z · Oct 2, 2017

Well I a have a Borg Warner turbo BV70 that is playing me a trick
it say on plate
T010 901 074 7
BV70
I1809L 001
proberly a titanium compressor wheel and speed sensor in I guess a mercedes application for truck, some one here knows more I can not find nada on this one

Below decoding on this one make no sense for me

majesty78 said:
You should start using correct names for the turbos you have in question.

Something like 5303 970(988) xxxx

However in those turbos you have 1880 and 1874 compressor wheels.

18 = 1.8" exducer and 80% or 74% from that inducer diameter which means

46mm exducer and 34 or 36.8mm inducer.

1874 is found on 120-140hp 2.0L CR and
1880 is used on 163 -170hp engines.

Just to make it a tad easier:

bv43 = k03 = 5303 in BorgWarner designation
bv50 = k04 = 5304 in BW

bv40 = 5440
bv/kp39 = 5439
bv/kp35 = 5435

This is for the first 4 numbers.

Then follows either:

970 for new, delivered to OEM turbo (sometimes 971)

988 for aftermarket OEM turbo

950 for upgrade/specials

And the last 4 are the detailed model no.

So per example a bv43A has:

5303 970(or 988) 0207 which is in terms of BW called:

BV43-1880KCF419.18BVAXC
BV43 = turbo family
1880 compressor wheel dimensions
K/C/F are terms for the geometry of c-wheel/ geometry of c-housing/ trim/contour of c-wheel
4 = turbine housing inlet area in cm²
1 = single scroll
B = turbine contour/trim
V = variable nozzle turbine
A = internal no.
X = design of inlet flange
C = material of turbine housing

Rest of the numbers are internal revisions and design numbers.

And you guys thought Garrett numbers are complicated? ^^

Fix_Until_Broke · Oct 5, 2017

I'm looking for a variable geometry turbo that will support ~1000HP on ~6.6 Liters at ~3000 RPM. Needs a pressure ratio of ~4.5:1 and ~100lb/min airflow. Lots of wastegate turbos out there, but not finding much for variable geometry.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? Looking for something relatively modern/high efficiency/high performance. I'm guessing there's not a lot of this kind of thing in OEM applications?

Thanks in advance - Matt

TDIMeister · Oct 5, 2017

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-68663.html

If not in a single, would be a great candidate for a twin or quad-turbo setup.

Fix_Until_Broke · Oct 5, 2017

Thanks Dave - That gives me a lot of leads to look into, exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks again - Matt

diffas · Oct 31, 2017

Probably close same that they use in S63 engines. Quite nice turbos for sure.

diffas · Nov 2, 2017

So what about 821479-5003S / 059145873BA ? Out from 300hp 3.0tdi.

majesty78 · Nov 2, 2017

You want one? ^^

diffas · Nov 2, 2017

Maybe, maybe.

Thinking of upgrading out of my current bv50.

majesty78 said:
You want one? ^^

majesty78 · Nov 3, 2017

Maybe take Audi GTD2060VZK in consideration also....

ryanp · Nov 3, 2017

same as normal 268ps GTD2060vzk AFAIK, just 2bar boost stock IIRC

majesty78 · Nov 3, 2017

Yes, they run crazy boost from factory and respond very well to modifications of intake and exhaust....Easy 800Nm on 3.0L engine....

diffas · Nov 3, 2017

majesty78 said:
Maybe take Audi GTD2060VZK in consideration also....

What upgrade options there are for that unit? Lets say up to 380-400hp. Or is that how capable unit as stock? Seems like I really need some power to this heavy $hitwagon to move somewhere.

TDIMeister · Nov 3, 2017

Some interesting finds in my occasional visits at turbomaster.info:

GTC1749VZ 836825-0003 FPT
GTD1749VR 839765-0001 (i.e. 4th generation VNT, roller bearings) for FIAT;
Several more alternative GTD1752VRK variants to the BMW ones, now also used by FIAT, Ford, Jaguar-Land Rover.

All can be found here:
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/catalogs/model.php?base=garrett&pagina=GT17V

Also:

GTB2956VKLR (typo, it's a GTB2056VKLR) 816841-0002 MERCEDES
Many more GTD20s from multiple OEMs now available

http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/catalogs/model.php?base=garrett&pagina=GT20V

Other nuggets:

GTB2259VKLR 822222-0003 MASSERATI
GTD2355VZ 819872-0001 PEUGEOT
GT3276VJLNRU 795657-0005 FORD
GTB3576KNRV 830725-0001 HINO
GTB3782VA 813016-0001 CATERPILLAR
GTC4088BKNV 841805-0004 IVECO
GTC4502BKNV 826592-0003 IVECO

Edit: DSGT is the designation for the 2-stage bi-turbo range:
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/catalogs/garrett.php?serie=DSGT

Example for the Audi 3.0 bi-TDI:
GT3067S+GTB1749VK 825965-0006 AUDI
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/catalogs/model.php?base=garrett&pagina=DSGT30

More specs to all of these (e.g. wheel dimensions, trim, blade configuration, housing A/Rs, etc.) appreciated for those who come across these.

Turbo Z · Nov 4, 2017

well turbmaster is an interesting place to look and to sometime find information but when it comes there it is not the latest look at honeywells site under videos and you will find out more what is coming up

As we all now there is two stage double VNT serie turbos (these call DSGT too?) like Dave show before and there is two stage with ball-bearing like
Range rover 3,0 SDV6 and jaguar F pace 3l that is not in turbomaster as well

But some time I do not understand garrett
if you look at there new G25-550 and G25-660 turbocharger they show at sema 2017, if you look in drawing in of these there is a T4 twin scrollbolted connection available but if you look on specified exhaust house, there is not any divided available!?

anyway if some one has 843059-0004 (DSTG1752S+GTD1038VZ) I would be interesting since I thing it would be good on my audi 1,2 tdi

majesty78 · Nov 4, 2017

Turbo Z said:
But some time I do not understand garrett
if you look at there new G25-550 and G25-660 turbocharger they show at sema 2017, if you look in drawing in of these there is a T4 twin scrollbolted connection available but if you look on specified exhaust house, there is not any divided available!?

Yes thats right, at first I was happy to see T4 in the housing drawings, because that would meet up my current manifold with EFR6758 T4 Twin Scroll, but then, like you, I was disappointed seeing that there is no T4 housing option in the list.
Hopefully this will be added in the next weeks, then I would take in consideration to swap from EFR to G25-550, as I would like to proof the marketing numbers given on these units.

If you compare the compressor maps on Garrett site or catalogue, you will see, that the specified max. flow (p.e. 50lbs/min) sometimes result in a "max. power" given from 450, and sometimes 500, and sometimes 550hp.

So I think they also take the turbine side into the "max. Power" calculation, where the new MAR-M "high flow" turbine will have some advantages compared to the partly 30 years old GT turbine design.....

Turbo Z · Nov 4, 2017

at a price on over 2000$ it has a lot to live up to, just going to see if it is going to be in T4 and find "right sourse" to buy one, in my personal opinion when it is over 2000$ it is to much... The efr7163 in my personal opinion working quite good and I really feel I get a some performance and quality for the buck... and there is more then meets the eye

majesty78 said:
Yes thats right, at first I was happy to see T4 in the housing drawings, because that would meet up my current manifold with EFR6758 T4 Twin Scroll, but then, like you, I was disappointed seeing that there is no T4 housing option in the list.
Hopefully this will be added in the next weeks, then I would take in consideration to swap from EFR to G25-550, as I would like to proof the marketing numbers given on these units.

If you compare the compressor maps on Garrett site or catalogue, you will see, that the specified max. flow (p.e. 50lbs/min) sometimes result in a "max. power" given from 450, and sometimes 500, and sometimes 550hp.

So I think they also take the turbine side into the "max. Power" calculation, where the new MAR-M "high flow" turbine will have some advantages compared to the partly 30 years old GT turbine design.....

Boyka · Nov 8, 2017

My car a4 avant b8 3.0 tdi 204cvs brings a gtb2056vzk a gtb2260vzk would be plug-play but .... I would like a ceramic ball bearing turbo as much as possible plug- Play.

The car is now reassigned giving 250cvs and 505nm being conservative with the 8v multitronic gearbox which is the limiting factor.

The idea is to put a better turbo to make a personalized reassignment protecting the gearbox.

What options are there?

Thanks greetings.

Boyka · Nov 13, 2017

no one?

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