PounDDer
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Why is this not a sticky yet?
Great information, thanks for the hard work!
Great information, thanks for the hard work!
No... Bearings wear out when they happen to wear out...My only question is..... Should I go ahead and replace the passenger side bearing even though it isn't noisy????
Glad you found it useful; thanks for sharing your experience. I should probably emphasize using a pushing disc what actually fits through the knuckle bore, you're not the only one who has had problems with it.Thanks again to Scurvy and everyone else who contributed to this post!! I simply could NOT have done this without the guidance of this post. I'd love to see this post be made "sticky" or saved somewhere, somehow in the archives..... This info is just too valuable to simply be "lost" over time!!!
Ditto, don't replace bearings prematurely. If they're tight and quiet don't touch 'em!No... Bearings wear out when they happen to wear out...
This seems like a bad idea for the differential. Put the entire front end up in the air instead - much nicer on the diff and lets you check both front wheels at once.1) I found that lifting one wheel, putting it in gear and spinning up to driving speed was the most reliable way to identify the bad bearing.
Disagree, as noted several places before.2) You may as well replace both bearings at the same time.
I used a 3-jaw puller to press the drive shaft out. The slide hammer is only to pull the hub out of the steering knuckle.3) Forget the slide hammer.
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Use a 3-jaw puller to press the drive shaft out.
A press would be nice to have, but as indicated in the first post this was intended as a how-to on replacing the bearing while the steering knuckle is installed on the car. The FWD bearing kit can also be used to pressing in control arm bushings or similar. Unfortunately not for a cider press, though.4) Buy a cheap hydraulic press. You can get compact 6 ton models for $100, which have more than enough force. They make great cider presses also.
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Pressing the bearing back in can be done with the same large socket or with the old bearing. It goes in much easier than trying to tap it in straight with a hammer. With a press it is practically self-aligning.
A posi-lock puller or similar would be an excellent addition if you're doing more than one or two. Most folks would be much more likely to have a Dremel than a race puller, though. Nicking the hub a bit isn't a big deal, either. Just smooth it out with some sandpaper.5) Cutting the inner race off works, but it is very tricky to not grind through into the hub shaft. I cut the first one off, then remembered that I bought a bearing race puller years ago.
You're probably right, but the process literally only takes 2 seconds to tell if the noise is there. The differential probably takes as much abuse when stuck in snow and one wheel has traction. I tried with both wheels up, but the advantage with one wheel at the time is that I didn't need to get out of the car and stick my head next to a spinning wheel to hear the noise- when the offending wheel was off the ground the noise was audible inside just as when driving normally.This seems like a bad idea for the differential. Put the entire front end up in the air instead - much nicer on the diff and lets you check both front wheels at once.
Well, all I can say is that both my bearings failed at 200K within 2 months of each other. Had I replaced the second one at the same time, I would have saved time, a set of brake pads, and extra shipping for the second set of parts. Also, my second one failed when it was 20 below, when it isn't as nice to work outside.Disagree, as noted several places before.
Of course. I'm just suggesting that removing the knuckle was very easy, did not require any hammering on sensitive parts, and didn't require realignment. I tried the slide hammer approach first, and really did not like the level of force that was being applied with no effect.I used a 3-jaw puller to press the drive shaft out. The slide hammer is only to pull the hub out of the steering knuckle.
Sure, people can chose whatever route they like. My point is that presses are not expensive, and are useful for other things, so people should consider this route. I looked everywhere for a FWD bearing kit locally with no luck, and shipping one in was too expensive.A press would be nice to have, but as indicated in the first post this was intended as a how-to on replacing the bearing while the steering knuckle is installed on the car. The FWD bearing kit can also be used to pressing in control arm bushings or similar. Unfortunately not for a cider press, though.
Agreed, and I did go the grinding route at first. However, Canadians should go to Princess Auto or equivalent and pick up a cheap puller. Mine isn't anything fancy- just a screw, a bar, and two jaws. No locking mechanism, hence the c-clamp. It took way less time to pull the second race than grind off the first one, and no gouging the hub like I did the first time.Most folks would be much more likely to have a Dremel than a race puller, though. Nicking the hub a bit isn't a big deal, either. Just smooth it out with some sandpaper.
FAG brand's not bad... In Canada I usually order from http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/roseland/VWPartsA4.htm (and usually keep a bearing or two in stock... just in case...)what is a good brand for replacement wheel bearings?
I've responded to your PM for this information, but will put it out there again for everyone's benefit: I would use any bearing made in a first-world, industrialized country by SKF, Fischer Aktiengesellschaft (FAG), INA or Timken.what is a good brand for replacement wheel bearings?
There's likely no benefit to the car to do both, but there absolutely can be a benefit to you to do both if you're a tinkerer or very DIY-inclined. Or if you're dumb about which bearing is bad and have to do the other one, like I did the first time.The first bearing took 5 hours, but the 2nd bearing took about 1.5 hours. I know Scurvy said there's no benefit in doing both bearings if only one needs it. But it was rewarding to know I could do it pretty quickly the 2nd time, once I knew how to do it.
How do you plan on removing the hub with the axle still going through it? I think you'll find pushing the axle out of the hub/steering knuckle one of the easiest parts of the entire process... not sure what you're trying to accomplish by leaving the axle in place.Question - has anyone tried to pull the hub before removing the axle? Wondering if this would keep from having to use the slide hammer to remove the hub. Or is this a bad idea?
And we all commend your patriotism and sacrifice in trying to get the economy moving again!!CURRENT DEALER COST-$985.00.
Yowza! $985 for both front wheel bearings and an alignment...CURRENT DEALER COST-
FYI - Had both front wheel bearings replaced plus wheel alignment at Lindsey VW in Sterling, VA, last week while I was on vacation and left the car (2002 Golf TDI) there to have the work done. Total cost was $985.00. Not an insignificant amount.
My definitive preferred method. For all vehicles, front and rear.Try this one:
Originally Posted by flyingmikey
HOW TO FIND THE BAD GUY:
1- With parking brake on and in tranny in neutral, jack front drivers side tire so it no longer touches the floor.
2- With your hand firmly holding on to the coil spring, rotate tire manually and "FEEL" for any vibration in the coil spring.
3- Repeat procedure on passenger side
4- Bad bearing is on the side where you felt vibration in the coil spring. Good bearings will not cause any vibration to be transmitted to the coil spring.
I've not looked at the mk3 front wheel bearing setup in any detail but it appears broadly similar to the mk4. Are you saying it's essentially the same?Thanks for the help, first time at the wheel bearing change, and it sorta went smooth
So you didn't use the Harbor Freight wheel bearing kit and instead used a balljoint pressing tool?I wish i had rented the "schley" tool or w.e. that thing's called, the advance auto balljoint presser/puller was not a deep enough C to really get around the assembly to be square when pressing in the bearing and hub.