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romad October 25th, 2013 08:00

Any updates on 2014
 
or is that a banned topic now? ;)

Lug_Nut October 25th, 2013 18:25

I'm hoping the silence on this thread is because there are groups too busy coming up with proposals to be frittering away time posting.

Yeah, I'm an optimist.

Dozenspeed October 26th, 2013 12:40

Well I was hoping someone other than me would chime in, but if you guys are desperate for something on this topic, here is a morsel....:o

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=368215

About post #37 is where it gets slightly interesting. ;)

Dozenspeed October 26th, 2013 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomo366 (Post 4336501)
trying to remain Positive......


What's wrong? :confused:

Lug_Nut October 26th, 2013 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug_Nut (Post 4336033)
I'm an optimist.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomo366 (Post 4336740)
I tend to make negative remarks

The yin and yang of TDI Club.

VW Derf October 27th, 2013 13:46

Those that are thinking (even remotely) of organizing a TDIFest in an area, for 2014, 2015, or even 2016 feel free to start a new thread in this section. This why the future discussion section was created. There are a number of different groups and people out there that might be able to jump in and move this forward for this or future years.

If you would like more details, feel free to contact one of the previous organizers or myself for more details.

Dozenspeed October 27th, 2013 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by VW Derf (Post 4337150)
Those that are thinking (even remotely) of organizing a TDIFest in an area, for 2014, 2015, or even 2016 feel free to start a new thread in this section.....


I plan to...just as soon as some details/confirmations are made to VeeDub by people I put him in touch with. He asked I hold off on any formal announcement until a couple things solidify. I secretly have a good chunk of an event "planned" out and I believe a few locals willing to help with the cause already. I just want to say; Go Denver 2015! ;)

ssamalin October 29th, 2013 07:49

Pick 2014 location by mathamatical calculation, pick the spot nearest to the most TDIClub users. For once, try to include people.

tomo366 October 29th, 2013 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssamalin (Post 4338717)
Pick 2014 location by mathamatical calculation, pick the spot nearest to the most TDIClub users. For once, try to include people.

Are you serious??? have you not read any of this??? :rolleyes:

Dozenspeed October 29th, 2013 11:41

Well maybe he missed the link in post 3.

Here's a crudely modified map to illustrate where/when the past fests have been. While "too much New England" has been a voiced complaint, I think folks have done not too bad of a job bouncing it around:

http://pics.tdiclub.com/data/5630/stlfest14.jpg

Here is another highlighting the interstates that go DIRECTLY to/through St. Louis Missouri:

http://pics.tdiclub.com/data/5630/stlfest14b.jpg

All this is part of why I think the STL is an excellent candidate and it being here in 2014 would be a timely benefit to growing the event and reaching more and newer members of TDI club. It the 3rd farthest west ever and very very central to all of the US east of the Rockies. Where there are interstates there is population, and many many folks are near equidistant from Denver to DC, and Texas and Florida to St. Paul. :)

tomo366 October 29th, 2013 11:49

Very nice graphics!!:)

Dozenspeed October 29th, 2013 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomo366 (Post 4338927)
Very nice graphics!!:)

Aw shucks, thanks! :)

romad October 29th, 2013 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dozenspeed (Post 4338922)

Here is another highlighting the interstates that go DIRECTLY to/through St. Louis Missouri:

http://pics.tdiclub.com/data/5630/stlfest14b.jpg

All this is part of why I think the STL is an excellent candidate and it being here in 2014 would be a timely benefit to growing the event and reaching more and newer members of TDI club. It the 3rd farthest west ever and very very central to all of the US east of the Rockies. Where there are interstates there is population, and many many folks are near equidistant from Denver to DC, and Texas and Florida to St. Paul. :)

No direct through link to California so I guess I'm out. ;)

dogdots October 29th, 2013 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by romad (Post 4339110)
No direct through link to California so I guess I'm out. ;)

You can choose route 66 or I-40 to I-44 ;)

romad October 29th, 2013 17:05

Ah, but that is not "direct" as I'd have to change Interstates! :D
The only ones he is showing as "direct" are 44, 55, 64, & 70. Of course if I limited myself to the smallest number of Interstates, then I could take 80 to the 55 junction then south to St. Louie.

BTW, old Route 66 is now roughly (West to East) I-10 to I-15 to I-40 to I-44 to I-55

Dozenspeed October 30th, 2013 03:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by romad (Post 4339222)
Ah, but that is not "direct" as I'd have to change Interstates! :D

Well that's your fault for living in California! You know how they like to make your life difficult. :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by romad (Post 4339222)
then I could take 80 to the 55 junction then south to St. Louie.

BOR-ING! ;) Might as well make an epic scenic back route out of it! BTW, if you come in I-44, you don't even need to touch I-55, just take I-44 east and hang a left at State Highway 109 in Eureka and you're there. :D

romad October 30th, 2013 09:19

Or, I could take US 50 all the way. ;)

RNDDUDE October 30th, 2013 12:05

"Go West, young man!"

romad October 30th, 2013 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNDDUDE (Post 4339944)
"Go West, young man!"

Unfortunately there is this HUMOUNGOUS pond between CA and HI so I can't take my TDI there! However, TDIFest in Hawaii IS intriguing.

TDI_ October 30th, 2013 18:20

I can has FERRY!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ia-D327133.jpg

Is this big enough :D Sure enough soot :)

cevans October 30th, 2013 19:26

STL makes sense, if you can't have the World Series Title the least we could do is have the 'Fest there :-)

TDI_ October 30th, 2013 20:29

^^ Did I miss a post? :confused:

Dozenspeed October 30th, 2013 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by cevans (Post 4340295)
STL makes sense, if you can't have the World Series Title the least we could do is have the 'Fest there :-)

At least it doesn't take us 95 years to win one in own stadium! :p

SuperAdellic October 30th, 2013 21:22

The cards and red sox combined have won 5 of the last 10 world series... if cards fans are crying, I have no sympathy... try being a cubs fan... I have sympathy for them... all that aside, I think STL would be a wonderful place for TDIFest... ironically, the proposed location is less than a mile from my old house... I remember when there wasn't hardly anything in that area except a few housing subdivisions...

Dozenspeed October 31st, 2013 04:07

We're just kiddin' around, captain. The Sox are a deserving team and I'm glad the City of Boston could get a nice pick-me-up after the tragedy earlier this year. :)

ssamalin October 31st, 2013 12:05

Is there a map of where the this web site users are? An equation would calculate the center by weighting the distances by user count. California for instance with it's many users would "pull" the center to it because it has weight, say a higher percentage. A math geek would do it before breakfast. This should be considered whenever the site is chosen, not the only factor, but over years it should grossly cover the most users. Other factors would be fun/family factor, facilities, and a few effs more.

romad October 31st, 2013 12:53

A major problem is that the Location item is optional and would not work with fake locations. Fred would have to mandate everyone put in an actual physical location.

Lug_Nut October 31st, 2013 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dozenspeed (Post 4340360)
At least it doesn't take us 95 years to win one in own stadium! :p

Other than Wrigley Field for the Cubbies (built 1914), no other stadium is even as close to being that old. The third oldest was built in 1962.
"According to current ownership, Fenway Park has at least another 40-50 years of structural durability in its current state, and they intend to use every one of them." So maybe one more World Series win and countless "Buckner" bobbles?

Dozenspeed November 1st, 2013 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssamalin (Post 4340847)
Is there a map of where the this web site users are? An equation would calculate the center by weighting the distances by user count. California for instance with it's many users would "pull" the center to it because it has weight, say a higher percentage. A math geek would do it before breakfast. This should be considered whenever the site is chosen, not the only factor, but over years it should grossly cover the most users. Other factors would be fun/family factor, facilities, and a few effs more.

I do like your Spock-like approach of thinking, ;) but the event planning is more organic than that; subject to motivation and opportunity and bandwagonism. I too would like to see that map of members but understand it cannot be scientific as romad has pointed out. At the moment, I feel I'm the biggest nut on this topic and have gathered some support on TDIFestSTL into the lead idea at this time. That's not to say someone more aggressive could still pull out California or Colorado and make that happen instead. A California Fest seems inevitable, but it just takes some motivated masochists to get together and make it happen. No reason that can't be you! :)

BlankThis November 5th, 2013 20:54

Ottawa would be fun too...?

volkswheels November 7th, 2013 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlankThis (Post 4345944)
Ottawa would be fun too...?

Agreed :)

romad November 7th, 2013 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlankThis (Post 4345944)
Ottawa would be fun too...?

I was there in 2002 for a Miata event: "Northern Exposure 2002" Actually, we were in Aylmer, Quebec at Chateau Cartier.

Chuckler3 November 10th, 2013 15:33

A midwestern TDIFest would make it a lot easier to attend for me at least. And it would serve as reason enough to drive up to see my folks in IL

Dozenspeed November 10th, 2013 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckler3 (Post 4349975)
A midwestern TDIFest would make it a lot easier to attend for me at least. And it would serve as reason enough to drive up to see my folks in IL

I'm still simmering with my proposal/plans, I'm trying this new thing called "patience" but I'm not sure for how much longer I can tolerate....;)

Lug_Nut November 12th, 2013 17:26

Patience? about 6 weeks is all.
New Year's is traditionally when the "Is 'fest registration open yet?" posts begin.

Dozenspeed November 13th, 2013 09:17

I was referring to civic permissions on the proposal I'm working on. :)

ZiggyTheHamster November 14th, 2013 21:30

100% count me in if it's in STL. I'll even organize a TUL-STL convoy if there's interest.

The only one I could have even remotely attended was Lexington, KY (2011), and at the time I couldn't afford to do it.

Lug_Nut November 16th, 2013 08:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dozenspeed (Post 4352719)
I was referring to civic permissions on the proposal I'm working on. :)

You, as well as anyone else considering such an undertaking, have been granted 'permission'. Indeed, the purpose of the 'future fest' threads is to urge any of you to submit a proposal, or several proposals.

Dozenspeed November 16th, 2013 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug_Nut (Post 4355552)
You, as well as anyone else considering such an undertaking, have been granted 'permission'. Indeed, the purpose of the 'future fest' threads is to urge any of you to submit a proposal, or several proposals.

I apologize for assuming you knew details/status of where I am at on my proposal. :o So here's a brief run-down for you and anyone else:

I have found a worthy hotel in price range, in a desirable locale. I've amassed a few volunteers here on the forum to verbally commit their support. I've started designing a unique activity event involving our cars and a sort of exploritory tour of the local flair. Oilhammer is on board as a speaker. I've asked for and aquired VeeDub's expert assistance in the areas of registration coordination. We have contacted the hotel event coordinator. :)

What WE are awaiting is some permission/answers from her and the city on official permits for our tent/parking activities and things. We've given ample time to get the ball back but now it is time for me to start pushing the cart along again, so I'll be making contact again this week in effort to get some concrete progress. THAT is where I have been trying to exercise patience, which is tough for me. :rolleyes:

mk4TDI1 November 17th, 2013 06:49

never been to a TDI fest meet. looking forward to the 2014 event :) hope i can make it!!

Lug_Nut November 17th, 2013 09:44

...and I thought "civic" was a way of working around the automatic language censor on TDIClub.
You see, the word "civil" is something many of us aren't, almost as if it is forbidden. Check out the oil wars, or grease vs. bio vs. petro threads, and you'll understand why civilities appear to be so uncommon.

"Bureaucratic" permissions? Now that can be more difficult than trying to get Fred's factions to agree on something.
Good Luck!

avaag November 18th, 2013 19:44

I'm not sure about the internal politics of the forum but I will firmly back and attend a STL located fest! Viva STL!

phlfly November 19th, 2013 14:48

Austin, TX for Formula One event in Nov. Most time F1 is in mid November (Nov 15). It's good place to go during that time a lot music and excellent food. We can stay either Austin or San Antonio (cheaper) or North on Austin. We can visit F1 racing on Sun just buy one day tickets. Also it's excellent weather around all US so driving should be enjoyable and very good mpg. I like Texas I think it's true USA, kind people, good food, a lot music, and fast hwy's.

bhtooefr November 21st, 2013 04:04

Are you offering to help organize that event?

phlfly November 21st, 2013 10:06

Yes I would like, but will need some local help.

romad November 21st, 2013 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by phlfly (Post 4358663)
Austin, TX for Formula One event in Nov. Most time F1 is in mid November (Nov 15). It's good place to go during that time a lot music and excellent food. We can stay either Austin or San Antonio (cheaper) or North on Austin. We can visit F1 racing on Sun just buy one day tickets. Also it's excellent weather around all US so driving should be enjoyable and very good mpg. I like Texas I think it's true USA, kind people, good food, a lot music, and fast hwy's.

You are aware that the TDIFest is on Labor/Labour Day weekend because that is when these U.S. and Canada have the same holiday?

As for mid-November weather, just about every northern and Rocky Mountain state/province will be having snow storms. And, of course, it is close to the U.S. Thanksgiving holidays.

deegingerkid November 21st, 2013 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by phlfly (Post 4358663)
Austin, TX for Formula One event in Nov. Most time F1 is in mid November (Nov 15). It's good place to go during that time a lot music and excellent food. We can stay either Austin or San Antonio (cheaper) or North on Austin. We can visit F1 racing on Sun just buy one day tickets. Also it's excellent weather around all US so driving should be enjoyable and very good mpg. I like Texas I think it's true USA, kind people, good food, a lot music, and fast hwy's.


I'd consider going, but if Seb is going to run away with next season like he did this season, I have little to no interest. Now..if Kimi works miracles with Ferrari or Grosjean kicks some serious ass with Lotus, I'm IN! Matt says if Lewis is having a half decent season count him in too. :D

blu_jet_92 November 22nd, 2013 15:45

I'm a few hours north of STL, but i'd be more than happy to help!

Dozenspeed November 22nd, 2013 15:54

Sad news. The hotel booked a couple weddings out from under me. :( Something about email server failure on THEIR part. :confused: A real follow-up phone call would have been.......nice. (I was trying to avoid using the word "professional" -oh darn it I did anyway) My fault I guess for trying not to be annoying and impetuous. :o Suddenly I'm left without the perfect venue. :mad:

I'm now thinking......thinking.......:(

tomo366 November 22nd, 2013 17:04

:(......

sdubois November 23rd, 2013 02:44

well thats just SLIGHTLY annoying....I'm now also thinking......thinking.......:(

Verizon Wireless ampitheater has a decent size parking lot, are there usually concerts on holidays(specifically labor day)?

Lug_Nut November 23rd, 2013 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dozenspeed (Post 4361686)
Suddenly I'm left without the perfect venue.
I'm now thinking......thinking.......

Part of the struggle of the fest organization is coping with the set-backs that invariably arise. Those that handle the issues best are those that still make the plan B work better than the fubarred plan A. So that venue would have been perfect? So what? Pick up, move on, work a plan B. How could B be improved to be more like A? Not necessarily perfect, but can it be close enough to A that those in attendance won't care? You might know the difference, but the attendees don't have to know.

Dozenspeed November 23rd, 2013 19:04

Gee, rally the boys with pep talk when the chips are down much? :)

MonsterTDI09 November 24th, 2013 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dozenspeed (Post 4362660)
Gee, rally the boys with pep talk when the chips are down much? :)

You will find better place:)

Lug_Nut November 24th, 2013 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dozenspeed (Post 4362660)
Gee, rally the boys with pep talk when the chips are down much? :)

No, obviously, as I'm not good at it.

Dozenspeed November 25th, 2013 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug_Nut (Post 4363269)
No, obviously, as I'm not good at it.

I think you did a fine job. :)

TomJD November 25th, 2013 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dozenspeed (Post 4361686)
Sad news. The hotel booked a couple weddings out from under me. :( Something about email server failure on THEIR part. :confused: A real follow-up phone call would have been.......nice. (I was trying to avoid using the word "professional" -oh darn it I did anyway) My fault I guess for trying not to be annoying and impetuous. :o Suddenly I'm left without the perfect venue. :mad:

I'm now thinking......thinking.......:(

Sounds like they were giving you the run-a-round from day one. You had mentioned to me months ago that they were desperate for business and I now know why. We can always go further out, down 44 maybe? I imagine there are some relatively empty hotels in Eureka. Though the NW area of STL is a pretty nice area. Come to think of it, I don't even think I pass a hotel in my 17 mile commute in the morning.

tbarnhart November 29th, 2013 10:23

I hope that a St Louis area meet happens. Most likely will be the only one I would ever be able to attend. Sure can't afford a trip east or west.

evolDiesel December 1st, 2013 11:40

30hr/2053mi from PDX ... Can't win em' all :cool:

romad December 1st, 2013 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolDiesel (Post 4368708)
30hr/2053mi from PDX ... Can't win em' all :cool:

or, almost twice the distance and time to Denver: 1,258 miles/18 hours.

Marksaustyn December 2nd, 2013 20:03

Would love to attend St. Louis
I live around three hours away
If there is anyway I can help, I would be glad to

Roishe Cheng December 2nd, 2013 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by romad (Post 4340875)
A major problem is that the Location item is optional and would not work with fake locations. Fred would have to mandate everyone put in an actual physical location.

The apache http logs that are stored on Fred's server contain the IP address of every single user that has connected to tdiclub.com. From that I can run a geolocation script and tell you with probably 80% accuracy, where the majority of our users are coming from in North America. Since some might be using VPN's or proxies, there is always 20% factor that is usually throwaway data. Just offering to help if needed.

evolDiesel December 2nd, 2013 20:48

This sounds like a good approach :thumbup:

romad December 2nd, 2013 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roishe Cheng (Post 4370133)
The apache http logs that are stored on Fred's server contain the IP address of every single user that has connected to tdiclub.com. From that I can run a geolocation script and tell you with probably 80% accuracy, where the majority of our users are coming from in North America. Since some might be using VPN's or proxies, there is always 20% factor that is usually throwaway data. Just offering to help if needed.

Or, we could just ask the NSA! :D

Dozenspeed December 3rd, 2013 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marksaustyn (Post 4370122)
Would love to attend St. Louis
I live around three hours away
If there is anyway I can help, I would be glad to

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbarnhart (Post 4367415)
I hope that a St Louis area meet happens. Most likely will be the only one I would ever be able to attend. Sure can't afford a trip east or west.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomJD (Post 4364032)
Sounds like they were giving you the run-a-round from day one. You had mentioned to me months ago that they were desperate for business and I now know why. We can always go further out, down 44 maybe? I imagine there are some relatively empty hotels in Eureka. Though the NW area of STL is a pretty nice area. Come to think of it, I don't even think I pass a hotel in my 17 mile commute in the morning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdubois (Post 4362056)
well thats just SLIGHTLY annoying....I'm now also thinking......thinking.......:(

Verizon Wireless ampitheater has a decent size parking lot, are there usually concerts on holidays(specifically labor day)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu_jet_92 (Post 4361678)
I'm a few hours north of STL, but i'd be more than happy to help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by avaag (Post 4357916)
I'm not sure about the internal politics of the forum but I will firmly back and attend a STL located fest! Viva STL!


Waiting on information, please stand by.....

professorxjosh December 3rd, 2013 22:05

I'm very new to this site but if it's in St. Louis, I'll definitely be there. Wish I would have known it was in KY in 2011.
Looking forward to going.

MonsterTDI09 December 4th, 2013 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by professorxjosh (Post 4371281)
I'm very new to this site but if it's in St. Louis, I'll definitely be there. Wish I would have known it was in KY in 2011.
Looking forward to going.

That year was a hot one.:D

BlankThis December 9th, 2013 17:39

I would actually be game for a little (big) jaunt into 'merica if I could find a local TDIer who would be willing to co-drive with me.

Dozenspeed December 13th, 2013 10:49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Srr85QZ3U

It's PG-13. :eek:

Dozenspeed December 14th, 2013 05:27

I'm sure you all found this already, but if not, new St. Louis proposal thread and poll here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=402665 :)


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