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JELLOWSUBMARINE April 30th, 2019 11:09

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Originally Posted by CDubber (Post 5504356)
I used to believe the JSW was a MK6 car. Then someone at Eibach told me itís actually a MK5. If JSW isnít listed specifically on a parts seller site, I have absolutely no idea which parts will work. :/

JSW was mk5 thru 2010, mk6 2011 up. Knowing VW, 2010... what month? half way thru the year? Who knows.

The JSW was designated a Jetta sportwagen Only in American market. All other countries as a GulfSW.

CDubber April 30th, 2019 11:14

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Originally Posted by JELLOWSUBMARINE (Post 5504378)
JSW was mk5 thru 2010, mk6 2011 up. Knowing VW, 2010... what month? half way thru the year? Who knows.


This makes no sense as the 2010-2014 models are nearly identical. And the 2009 is on the same platform (I believe) despite a slightly-different interior and front end. I believe what Eibach told me is essentially correct: that the entire JSW run is a Mk5 Golf platform.

JELLOWSUBMARINE April 30th, 2019 12:48

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Originally Posted by CDubber (Post 5504380)
This makes no sense as the 2010-2014 models are nearly identical. And the 2009 is on the same platform (I believe) despite a slightly-different interior and front end. I believe what Eibach told me is essentially correct: that the entire JSW run is a Mk5 Golf platform.

If I'm not mistaken The 09 has the red "low line" mk5 electronics. The 10' or 11' it changes to mk6 as it is "high line" or mk6 as I understand it. When looking for a JSW I looked at 11' and up simply because they were mk6 with upgraded/acceptable BT ect.

Wilkins April 30th, 2019 22:48

As far as I am aware both the 09 and 10, 11’s came in both mid-line and highline trim in Canada. I think the US also got the comfortline trim as well, no fog lights and other items. In 2010 there was a major electronics change to the mk6 spec along with the updated front sheet metal. In later years software was updated and a few more minor goodies added, eg. BT.

Just wanted to correct the impression that a mk5 was lowline and Mk 6 highline in case someone is looking for electronics parts compatibility. There is very little on that line between the two models although most mechanical parts seem likely to swap in some manner.

JELLOWSUBMARINE May 1st, 2019 14:47

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Originally Posted by Wilkins (Post 5504590)
As far as I am aware both the 09 and 10, 11ís came in both mid-line and highline trim in Canada. I think the US also got the comfortline trim as well, no fog lights and other items. In 2010 there was a major electronics change to the mk6 spec along with the updated front sheet metal. In later years software was updated and a few more minor goodies added, eg. BT.

Just wanted to correct the impression that a mk5 was lowline and Mk 6 highline in case someone is looking for electronics parts compatibility. There is very little on that line between the two models although most mechanical parts seem likely to swap in some manner.

Im not real familiar with the difference of comfortline. I can only speak from my personal knowledge of my 2011 and the research on it.

I have found the 11' has 3 basic packages. the
1st is basic w/pleather,no pano or nav., 16" wheels, traction switch in lower console
2nd w/ plether, pano no nav., 17" porto wheels (?), traction switch in lower console
3rd w/ plether, pano, nav and 17" porto wheels, traction switch in lower console

Your right no fog lights

Every year the features grew or were refined

KeyTDI August 6th, 2019 17:38

Update:
She has been just ticking along.
Now at 123,300 miles.
My son bought me a Rosstech VCSD for Fathers day... What a guy!:D


Prepping for an oil change soon. Have everything ready.
Rear brakes are getting low and I am prepped for that too. Akebono EUR1456 pads, and despite the rotors looking reasonable, I have a slight pulse, so I have a pair of Zimmerman Z Coat 272mm rotors on hand.
Hope to do all that, AND the timing belt in the coming month.


On another note, my tailpipe if definitely sooty.... but no further CEL.... yet.

Fogcat August 7th, 2019 15:31

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Originally Posted by JELLOWSUBMARINE (Post 5504791)
Im not real familiar with the difference of comfortline. I can only speak from my personal knowledge of my 2011 and the research on it.

I have found the 11' has 3 basic packages. the
1st is basic w/pleather,no pano or nav., 16" wheels, traction switch in lower console
2nd w/ plether, pano no nav., 17" porto wheels (?), traction switch in lower console
3rd w/ plether, pano, nav and 17" porto wheels, traction switch in lower console

Your right no fog lights

Every year the features grew or were refined


I have an 11 in the 3rd package referenced with fog lights. The original owner had it delivered to Pittsburgh area so definitely an American model. I am confused by this since I most obviously will be ordering parts in the future and want to get it right. BTW I am very happy with it so far. It is a beauty.:) Thank you for all the info I've found here.

CDubber August 7th, 2019 16:10

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Originally Posted by KeyTDI (Post 5527331)
Akebono EUR1456 pads, and despite the rotors looking reasonable, I have a slight pulse, so I have a pair of Zimmerman Z Coat 272mm rotors on hand.


I'd love an update on difficulty of the process and any special tools/techniques required. I've never had to replace rotors myself but my JSW has some major rotor warp (at least I hope that's the issue) despite only 27k miles on the clock when I bought it. Maybe sitting undriven in the hot California desert sun for who-knows-how-long managed to warp the rotors.

03GolfTDI August 7th, 2019 17:29

The brakes and rotors are not difficult at all to do. Typical metric box and socket set, torx bits for rotor set screw and a mallet if you need to bang the rotor off the hub.

Really the only special tool needed is the caliper piston reset tool that you can rent from one of the big auto parts stores. The rear (can't remember if front was same) pistons need to be turned and pushed at the same time to retract.

If you are doing pads too I had really good luck with the ceramics from a dust perspective, didn't really see any performance differences between the OEM and ceramics so the highly reduced dusting was worth it.

CDubber August 7th, 2019 21:51

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Originally Posted by 03GolfTDI (Post 5527592)
Really the only special tool needed is the caliper piston reset tool that you can rent from one of the big auto parts stores. The rear (can't remember if front was same) pistons need to be turned and pushed at the same time to retract.


Is this the tool youíre referring to?

Jecr Brake Caliper Piston Rewind Tool - Right Handed Thread Compression Dual Pin Break Caliper Piston Rewind Tool for Disk Brake Pad Replacement, by https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076RZGT89..._qr6sDbWDRSR96

Wilkins August 9th, 2019 07:23

The carrier bolts can be really tight and it can be difficult to get enough leverage to break them loose with the car on jack stands. Most impacts won’t get in there because of clearance. I think someone estimated 500 ft/lb to break loose. You might want to consider a 1/2 in breaker bar and raising the rear of the car as far as you can. Look up the torque for reinstall. Apart from those four bolts it’s pretty straightforward with the rewind tool.

http://www.metalnerd.com/mobile/cata...7a188c0ed47e21
- more expensive than the Chinese version but definitely the right one.

Rockeye August 9th, 2019 10:13

Great job with the JSW.

For the rear brakes, you are going to need a triple square sockets. These are the ones that I grabbed to do the job.

https://www.amazon.com/Capri-Tools-T...0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

For the rear calipers, you are going to need a tool to retract the piston. You can grab that tool at any parts warehouse. Ive had mine sitting in my tool box for about 15 years. Haven't needed it until 2 weeks ago and Im glad I had it.

KeyTDI September 1st, 2019 12:07

Have a set of Triple squares ready... I think there is a little more life in the pads yet, from my last inspection, so will do this in the next month or so. I have a big run to Az in November with family, so I want the JSW in fine fettle before then.


I will do the Timing belt soon too.... I'm at 123k and getting a little edgy about it. Factory suggested is 130k right?

Anyone heard of them breaking early?


I've done 3300 miles on the current oil now.
I had planned to change it, but have a camping trip soon, which will be a 300 miles round trip. I think it makes sense to do it after a good run and see what the Blackstone analysis tell me about the condition.

JesseTDI September 1st, 2019 17:22

The timing belt is 120k miles. You could easily go 10k miles or more on an oil change on a TDI as long as you are using a good, proper spec oil. I use Luqi Moly 4200 in my 2012 Golf and have had great oil analysis results after 10k miles of use. Lab says I could push it further but I'll stick to the factory recommended interval.

turbobrick240 September 1st, 2019 19:03

The timing belt interval got lengthened from 120k to 130k miles in '11 m.y. cars onward. But doing them a little early or a little late is generally fine.


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