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r11 August 12th, 2013 04:18

40K service checklist
 
Oil, urea, fuel filter, cabin air filter, tire rotation . Anything else ?
Going to be first one I am going to do myself, now that VW's freebies are over.

What do dealerships charge for it - in labor ? Good source for parts ?

VeeDubTDI August 12th, 2013 07:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by r11 (Post 4266722)
Oil, urea, fuel filter, cabin air filter, tire rotation . Anything else ?
Going to be first one I am going to do myself, now that VW's freebies are over.

What do dealerships charge for it - in labor ? Good source for parts ?

http://pics.tdiclub.com/data/516/2012_Passat.pdf

Here is the maintenance PDF from the TDI 101 forum. Very helpful. :)

skinnyb August 12th, 2013 10:43

Since you are 6MT that should be it...

r11 August 12th, 2013 16:56

Having looked at the PDF, she looks like $500 service at the dealers. The list of checks goes on and on.



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jrm August 12th, 2013 20:19

id drop the manual gear oil every 50k, but that's just me

kydsid August 13th, 2013 04:31

I'm coming up on ours too. Anyone got an idea what to use to lubricate the sunroof? Never had a sunroof before so I'm guessing some kind of silicone?

lojeff10 August 13th, 2013 10:09

My dealership quoted me $530 for my 6m. I haven't been happy with them to begin with so there is no way I will go there for the 40k.

VeeDubTDI August 13th, 2013 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 4267753)
I'm coming up on ours too. Anyone got an idea what to use to lubricate the sunroof? Never had a sunroof before so I'm guessing some kind of silicone?

There is special sunroof grease/lube available. Not sure who sells it, but I'm sure a quick Internet search will return some results.

r11 August 15th, 2013 03:49

$530 ? Wow ...

40K has something like a dozen of checklists - that's why it is so labor intensive, IMO. "Check, examine, verify" etc etc.

The fluids/filters are no different from 20K service and so that's what I am going to do. Document stuff with receipts and may be a pic or two :)

r11 August 15th, 2013 03:53

And while on subject of sun roof - do poke those drains, gently, with some sort of wire/weed whacker line, to make sure they wont clog on you.

Some folx swear by Aerospace 303 to keep rubber that is exposed to the sun, shiny & happy

VeeDubTDI August 15th, 2013 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeeDubTDI (Post 4268217)
There is special sunroof grease/lube available. Not sure who sells it, but I'm sure a quick Internet search will return some results.

http://idparts.com/catalog/product_i...roducts_id=903

One tube will last a long time.

kydsid August 16th, 2013 04:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeeDubTDI (Post 4270601)

Yeah I found it after you mentioned it. Thanks though for the info it will last. The price was a bit of a shock initially.

VeeDubTDI August 16th, 2013 06:23

Yeah the price is a shock but I think it is an important step to maintain the sunroof's slides and deals over time.

kydsid August 18th, 2013 12:51

Heck now I'm not so shocked. The maintenance schedule for the sunroof calls for part # G060172A3 to lubricate the sunroof seals. I haven't got a dealer quote yet (didn't bother), but google pointed me to that this is a kyrtox lubricant, and it's more than the rail grease. Got some at a GM dealer for a little more than the rail grease. I'll do a write up on it all when I get the parts delivered.


But I did get everything but the DSG and sunroof done today.


PS. I'd like to kick the guy who designed the oil filter and the clearance to get it out of the engine bay.

VeeDubTDI August 18th, 2013 14:25

Remember to post your HOW TOs in this thread: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=346583 :)

FormerOwner October 6th, 2013 17:40

Found this on the PDF download: "Air filter element and snow filter: Replace and clean housing" called for every 60K...

Anyone have a visual aid that can show me where the snow filter is? Thanks!

kydsid October 7th, 2013 10:02

Snow filter is a piece of whit foam like material glued to the filter element side. Your car likely has one from factory as mine did even though it was delivered to Texas. Just pop the filter box and look at the filter. I replaced ours at 40k service due to dust conditions here. Interestingly enough I couldn't find a non snow filter equipped air filter for replacement.

jck66 October 7th, 2013 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by r11 (Post 4269862)
$530 ? Wow ...

40K has something like a dozen of checklists - that's why it is so labor intensive, IMO. "Check, examine, verify" etc etc.

I wonder if there is some kind of correlation between the 40k being a "big" service and it being the first "non-free" one.

(I for one would have preferred a longer warranty from the factory and pay for maintenance, if the price of the car were otherwise equivalent.)

Trvln Canuk October 7th, 2013 11:33

In Canada we don't get the free maintenance but do get a 4 year/80,000 km warranty instead.

CoggsWand October 16th, 2013 15:58

What is the part number for the Mann oil filter for the 2013 Passat 2.0 TDI. I'm looking around and getting different numbers from different web sites.

Thanks!

(edit) is it this one?

http://www.amazon.com/MAHLE-Original...1&s=automotive

I can't find a Mann filter, only this MAHLE.

Rico567 October 16th, 2013 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoggsWand (Post 4326973)
What is the part number for the Mann oil filter for the 2013 Passat 2.0 TDI. I'm looking around and getting different numbers from different web sites.

Thanks!

(edit) is it this one?

http://www.amazon.com/MAHLE-Original...1&s=automotive

I can't find a Mann filter, only this MAHLE.

Looks the same as this Hamman:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=A39702CCOVJH2

Which, if you scroll down to the product description, says it's for a "2012 Diesel Passat." Is it? I don't know. We've still only got 4700 miles on our car, so I haven't actually bought one and changed it.

IXLR8 October 19th, 2013 13:13

I just got back from having my 30K service done. I asked what the 40K was going to cost, I was told $490 for a 6MT, more for the DSG but I didn't ask as I have the MT.

cjlangston October 20th, 2013 12:00

just had my 40k done on my 2012 SEL w/DSG…dealer wanted to charge $1090 until I threatened to walk. Brought it down to $890 and I still feel unclean

Rico567 October 20th, 2013 12:49

I'd find a good independent, if I didn't plan to do it myself.

tdiot October 22nd, 2013 19:26

I just did the 40K service on my 6MT. ESP from Pep Boys for cheap with coupon. DEF from Walmart and filter pack from ID. Oil filter location absurd but still a very easy task. Less than one hour total.

Ace Deprave October 30th, 2013 03:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjlangston (Post 4330384)
just had my 40k done on my 2012 SEL w/DSG…dealer wanted to charge $1090 until I threatened to walk. Brought it down to $890 and I still feel unclean

Wow. I just called to schedule mine and was quoted $680.

r11 November 3rd, 2013 02:25

For the DIY types: idparts carries the whole service filter pack in one convenient package. Support one of our sponsors and save yourselves the guessing game.

Their price on LiquMoly is more than $10 cheaper than Amazons - and they won't charge tax for most of us, unlike the Amazon. JIC - they are in Mass.

r11 November 3rd, 2013 02:30

While saving ~$500+ by doing the service yourself is the driving factor for most of us, the other reason is to make sure it is all done properly.

If your friendly neighborhood mech decides to prime the fuel filter's clean side with unfiltered fuel, it is very likely your car will be toast. At the very least, make sure they understand that.

nasa November 7th, 2013 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeeDubTDI (Post 4266832)
http://pics.tdiclub.com/data/516/2012_Passat.pdf

Here is the maintenance PDF from the TDI 101 forum. Very helpful. :)

Do you know if there is maintenance PDF for the 2011 VW Golf TDi? I tried the search but couldn't find a match. Thanks.

VeeDubTDI November 8th, 2013 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by nasa (Post 4347916)
Do you know if there is maintenance PDF for the 2011 VW Golf TDi? I tried the search but couldn't find a match. Thanks.

Sticky thread in TDI 101. You can't miss it.

Hint: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=372242

Fingers302 November 13th, 2013 12:58

I just purchased a used 2013 SEL with DSG. Dealer quoted $680 for full service. I'm brand new to diesel cars and this forum. First post. Looking forward to all the information and money saving tips/advice from the site.

Rico567 November 13th, 2013 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingers302 (Post 4352925)
I just purchased a used 2013 SEL with DSG. Dealer quoted $680 for full service. I'm brand new to diesel cars and this forum. First post. Looking forward to all the information and money saving tips/advice from the site.

Are you talking about the 40K w/ DSG service? If so, that is well within the 'ballpark' of dealer prices discussed in this and other threads. The only way to realize significant savings is to do it yourself, or try to perhaps find an indie who knows what they're doing. And I italicized the last part of that sentence for good reason. If they're not experienced diesel mechanics, and this type of car specifically, it's risky.

Blue_Hen_TDI November 14th, 2013 05:05

Just knocked out all the 40k stuff on mine. I went with the dealer (Winner, Dover DE) for the DSG service to the tune of $349 out the door. The rest I did myself for $112 ($40 for 4.5 quarts Pennzoil Ultra Euro-L, $40 fuel filter, $20 cabin filter, $12 oil filter).

Be careful putting in the new cabin filter in cold weather. It's tight quarters under the dash and the frame of the filter will snap if bent any more than slightly. I proved it.

My advice for the fuel filter is to completely surround the filter housing with shop towels. There will inevitably be a few drops of diesel spilled when you break the lid loose. No need to disconnect any fuel hoses like on the older model TDIs. Slowly pull the old filter out having a rag or plastic bag ready to put it in. Visually inspect inside of canister. I basted out all fuel at 20k and wiped inside dry. In retrospect, that was overkill. For 40k, I saw that it looked great so I left it filled with fuel and just slowly sunk the new filter in. Torque the lid back on and then run this test in VCDS to bleed any air remaining in the housing:

Fuel Pump Basic Settings

[Select]
[01 - Engine]
[Basic Settings - 04]
Choose the Transfer Fuel Pump (FP) test from the drop down menu followed by [Go!] to activate the Basic Setting. The EDC should display "Running" and the electric fuel pump will run. After the result of Finished Correctly appears click [Stop].

Sandhopper November 16th, 2013 07:37

Hum, just had my 30K done and got the quote for the 40k... $850+ (~450 for the normal service and ~400 for the DSG) for the 40k service and the DSG service. Might have to drive home to slower DE to get that DSG service Blue_Hen got.

Ace Deprave November 16th, 2013 11:03

I received a coupon for 10% off of the 40k service, so mine ended up being $611 with tax. Still expensive, but pretty reasonable compared to what most are posting on here.

r11 November 16th, 2013 16:06

So it would have been over $700, with taxes etc. Ouch ! The parts are $120-ish, oil included - I guess they charge for 6-7 hours of labor ?

Rico567 November 16th, 2013 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by r11 (Post 4355891)
So it would have been over $700, with taxes etc. Ouch ! The parts are $120-ish, oil included - I guess they charge for 6-7 hours of labor ?

Yes- and the lion's share of that labor goes into the ridiculous lashup that is the VW DSG oil change procedure. It's nonsense, designed by armchair engineers without the slightest consideration for maintenance costs.

r11 November 17th, 2013 16:41

Ain't aces car an se - wo the dsg ?

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Ace Deprave November 18th, 2013 06:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by r11 (Post 4356737)
Ain't aces car an se - wo the dsg ?

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It's an SE, but with DSG (SE with sunroof and nav).

StoneCrab November 18th, 2013 18:33

Just had my 40k service done today. Total with tax was $575. I had a 15% coupon from the dealer so it brought it down to $495. Still seems likes a lot, but better than other places. Work order says 1.3 hours for the oil, fuel filter, pollen filter change. 1.5 hours for the DSG fluid and filter.

5 units (quarts?) of DSG gear oil at $24.27/unit = $121.35. Is it made from unicorn blood?

Blue_Hen_TDI November 18th, 2013 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by StoneCrab (Post 4357850)
Is it made from unicorn blood?

Corinthian unicorn blood.

MadCat November 20th, 2013 07:28

I'm having the 30k maintenance done on my 2013 Passat (SEL, DSG) this morning. The service rep gave me heads-up on the 40k maint

$710
(Day Vw/ Audi Pittsburgh)

Unicorn blood indeed

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APT November 22nd, 2013 08:04

I just had my 30k service and asked for estimate for 40k. $750 for 40k + $400 for DSG = $1150. I'll find an alternate in the next 8 months.

redbarron55 November 24th, 2013 15:43

Unborn Corithian unicorn blood O-negative. Raised in certified german reserves with no barbed wire, organic only.

ChadS99SVT November 27th, 2013 12:46

I just got a quote from one dealer I frequent. $857.00 for the 40k+Dsg service.

He mentioned how to get a 15% discount but ugh hoping I can still find it cheaper than that at another dealer.

I have another month or so.

South Coast Guy November 27th, 2013 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadS99SVT (Post 4366038)
I just got a quote from one dealer I frequent. $857.00 for the 40k+Dsg service.

He mentioned how to get a 15% discount but ugh hoping I can still find it cheaper than that at another dealer.

I have another month or so.

Some of the service you can easily do yourself; chaning cabin and engine air filter. Check local dealer websites for service coupons. I found one for 15% off any service and had that dealer service my DSG transmission. Clossest guro to me is 2 hours away, so not practical for me.

r11 December 21st, 2013 17:19

OK, did mine using the warm and dry weather we had today here in nj.

The plastic engine cover is friction fit, lifts right up, no tools required.

2012 takes 4.3L of VW-507 spec oil .

Use plenty of paper towels to mask and protect against the spills during the service.

I use plastic Rhino ramps for a number of years and a whole range of different cars, highly recommended.


To my surprise, oil filter came out very easily. The service crew at the dealer had already moved the wiring harness out of the way during the previous changes. All I had to do was tilt the filter a bit to the right and it came right out.

When doing visual inspection of the replacement filter it might look slightly different from the old one, there is a reason for it - paper on the bottom of the filter gets pushed in around the inner hole when it is inserted into the housing.

The bottom pan had 3 rear screws missing... Another reason to service your car yourself. What size are these ? I now need to acquire the replacements.

When putting new filter in, I placed the paper element into the housing first and then installed the top part. Don't forget to replace all 3 o rings. Lubricate all of them generously with fresh oil, especially the big one.

Fuel filter was a piece of cake. I removed the old one, SLOWLY, making sure I let most of the fuel drip back into the housing.

Then I SLOWLY sunk the new filter in. She started with may be 4 second hesitation. I do have a vcds, but didn't have to use it to prime the filter.

Did the air filters too, real easy stuff.

Yet to pour the DEF in, will do it tomorrow. Got "Peak DEF" at local auto parts store, 12 bux for what seems to be 2 gallons. I guess these are all the same.



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vw_norm December 23rd, 2013 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by r11 (Post 4389313)
The bottom pan had 3 rear screws missing... Another reason to service your car yourself. What size are these ? I now need to acquire the replacements.

from partsbase.org: N 90735604 hexagon socket head bolt with. hexagon socket head bolt with; shoulder; M7X28

When I dropped my oil pan to install the oil sensor, I was surprised by the number of 'barely' torqued bolts I came across. When yours came out, they were probably still on the splash shield, which you dealer dumped on the prior service. Always best to do your own servicing.

Robsride2 December 29th, 2013 15:32

My dealer charges 302.27 for the 40K on the 6MT. They gave me the pricing when I had the 30K service done.

lojeff10 December 30th, 2013 12:54

Amazing how different from one dealer/area to another.

Herkguy January 10th, 2014 12:46

Stonecrab, any chance you could post a copy of the receipt for the 40k service with DSG? My dealer wants 856 to do it but said they would match any other vw dealer so I would like to bring a copy in to show them.
Thanks Eric

StoneCrab January 17th, 2014 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herkguy (Post 4408700)
Stonecrab, any chance you could post a copy of the receipt for the 40k service with DSG? My dealer wants 856 to do it but said they would match any other vw dealer so I would like to bring a copy in to show them.
Thanks Eric

I'd be happy to but don't want to post personal info. And I bet they wouldn't accept a partial or redacted copy. I did have a 15% off coupon which they applied to the whole service too. I have been very happy with my dealer's service department. I think the DSG service is too expensive but that isn't the dealer's fault. PM me for more info...

mikeymike214 January 19th, 2014 09:14

ok im confused... im still under the 3 year maintenance warranty. from reading on this thread it seems that the dsg service is out of your own pocket? why isnt the dsg part of the warranty?

gforce1108 January 19th, 2014 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeymike214 (Post 4417217)
ok im confused... im still under the 3 year maintenance warranty. from reading on this thread it seems that the dsg service is out of your own pocket? why isnt the dsg part of the warranty?

Because the first DSG service (at 40k) is after the 'free' maintenance ends (36k up to '13, 24k for a '14).

Bobmws January 23rd, 2014 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by gforce1108 (Post 4417236)
Because the first DSG service (at 40k) is after the 'free' maintenance ends (36k up to '13, 24k for a '14).

Had my 20k today, my dealer is good. I've told them going into the 10K that I would check everything before signing the invoice copy. Haven't seen an errant oil, fuel or Adblue drip, and all levels are perfect. I asked about the 40k/DSG service and was told ~$500! I can live with that. :)

cevans January 28th, 2014 12:27

$500, and you are okay with that!? You can buy the parts for about $100 and pay yourself $400 for the DIY!

cevans January 28th, 2014 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robsride2 (Post 4395955)
My dealer charges 302.27 for the 40K on the 6MT. They gave me the pricing when I had the 30K service done.

I find the concept of "40k" service amazing - last time I got whacked for about $500 and, when I asked what was done, they didn't' even replace all the filters.

You can do all the filter and the oil yourself for under $125, or pay a local shop a VERY generous $100 to do it for you and still save a lot of cash.

Bobmws January 29th, 2014 04:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobmws (Post 4421896)
Had my 20k today, my dealer is good. I've told them going into the 10K that I would check everything before signing the invoice copy. Haven't seen an errant oil, fuel or Adblue drip, and all levels are perfect. I asked about the 40k/DSG service and was told ~$500! I can live with that. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cevans (Post 4426776)
$500, and you are okay with that!? You can buy the parts for about $100 and pay yourself $400 for the DIY!


Yes, I am, hone up on your reading skills.
I have faith in people I deal with face to face, not so much some one who solicits me on the internet. :mad:
FWIW, I do have a small business with a website, but I don't make a practice of prostituting myself by jumping into a thread and criticizing someone's choices.

Rico567 January 29th, 2014 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobmws (Post 4427413)
Yes, I am, hone up on your reading skills.
I have faith in people I deal with face to face, not so much some one who solicits me on the internet. :mad:
FWIW, I do have a small business with a website, but I don't make a practice of prostituting myself by jumping into a thread and criticizing someone's choices.

You, sir, are my new idol.

Rico567 March 9th, 2014 11:32

It is no doubt time consuming, but I believe it's the way to go when this "free service" runs out. I've been having a hard time rationalizing the purchase of VCDS for personal use, but since we've got a DSG, well, the first time I service it the VCDS will basically be paid for.....

IXLR8 March 21st, 2014 14:20

How do you reset the "service reminder" when you have completed the service? I just completed doing my 40K service, I have a VCDS, I just haven't figured out how to reset the service reminder.
Thanks

Sandhopper March 24th, 2014 18:09

Just had my 40k with the DSG serviced for $593.02. Called around to several VW dealers and the closest to home was the cheapest. BTW, when they quoted the job it was $618... They came in under their quote. I was amazed!:D
Good to go for another year.

psd1 April 1st, 2014 09:12

Has anyone been able to cross the fuel filters for the NMS? NAPA had their annual half price sale and were unable to source a filter. $40+ is a lot for a filter!

Rico567 April 2nd, 2014 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by psd1 (Post 4486524)
<snip>$40+ is a lot for a filter!

One source / proprietary = $40. When Wix & everybody else starts making it, $10.

psd1 April 2nd, 2014 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico567 (Post 4487575)
One source / proprietary = $40. When Wix & everybody else starts making it, $10.

:mad: Wonder when/if after markets can start copying?

d2305 May 25th, 2014 07:30

With the hpfp failures, I would only use Mann. Aftermarket oil filters are available.

JARED_LA June 14th, 2014 06:26

Can anyone post the thread showing all of the required tools to perform oil and fuel filter changes, including belly pan, req'd torque, etc.? Also, for the bottom drainers, are you guys lifting up the front only using ramps?
Thanks
Jared

leicaman June 14th, 2014 06:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeeDubTDI (Post 4268217)
There is special sunroof grease/lube available. Not sure who sells it, but I'm sure a quick Internet search will return some results.

ID parts sells it.

skinnyb June 17th, 2014 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARED_LA (Post 4548202)
Can anyone post the thread showing all of the required tools to perform oil and fuel filter changes, including belly pan, req'd torque, etc.? Also, for the bottom drainers, are you guys lifting up the front only using ramps?
Thanks
Jared

Not sure of the thread but you will need a 25 and 30 torx for belly pan, 19mm wrench or socket for drain plug. The filter is a 32mm socket. I believe the fuel filter is 25 torx as well.

If you remove the filter housing you will need a 10mm socket there I believe. I do drain mine from the bottom on ramps. I have a fumoto valve with a nipple and just put on a short length of hose and drain right back into an empty 5 liter jug that I emptied the last change.

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VeeDubTDI July 6th, 2014 07:01

Here are some pics from our 60K service...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/06/e8u5uvad.jpg
Nice and clean inside

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/06/ysyge4em.jpg
Fuel filter doing it's job

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/06/ezuhery6.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/06/yqy5utu9.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/06/emepuve6.jpg
Air filter doing it's job

Primed the fuel system with the VCDS output test for the fuel system electronics (didn't pre-fill the filter housing). After about 30 seconds all of the air was purged out and it started right up.

Rico567 July 6th, 2014 09:57

^^^^^^^^^^

VeeDubTDI wrote: "-Air filter doing it's job-" (+pix)

If you changed that filter at a 20K interval, where do you live? I change the cabin filter in our SAAB 9-5 wagon at the recommended 30K interval, and from the appearance of the filter, it's an exercise in futility. They look as clean coming out as they did going in. I've found a few small leaves and a few windborne seeds (maple, etc.) in there, but that's about it.

compu_85 July 6th, 2014 09:59

The filter was changed at 60k for the first time.

VeeDubTDI July 6th, 2014 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico567 (Post 4563850)
^^^^^^^^^^

VeeDubTDI wrote: "-Air filter doing it's job-" (+pix)

If you changed that filter at a 20K interval, where do you live? I change the cabin filter in our SAAB 9-5 wagon at the recommended 30K interval, and from the appearance of the filter, it's an exercise in futility. They look as clean coming out as they did going in. I've found a few small leaves and a few windborne seeds (maple, etc.) in there, but that's about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by compu_85 (Post 4563854)
The filter was changed at 60k for the first time.

... at the recommended interval. :)

Rico567 July 6th, 2014 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeeDubTDI (Post 4563868)
... at the recommended interval. :)

Woops! I didn't think to check the maintenance schedule. When someone earlier in the thread said it was part of the 20K service, I just assumed that was the interval.....

APT July 11th, 2014 11:45

I'm nearing my 40k and have a quote from a local TDI mechanic for labor. Does anyone recommend any of the customizable upgrades from the IDparts kit?

I800C0LLECT July 12th, 2014 09:32

Not sure if it matters to anybody but the 40k service w/DSG at PriorityVW in VA wasn't bad. After 16% discount and a bunch of coupons the service totaled at $710. But since I'm in Afcrapistan I had the wife add in tire balance/rotation, wheel alignement, engine air filter(we drive on a lot of dusty dirt roads), pollen air filter, wiper blades, and uh...something else? Not significant though.

They actually overcharged by about $25 I believe after going through the invoice. But I wasn't going to have the wife go back and complain about it.

Happy wife happy life :)

psaboic August 23rd, 2014 23:01

I got quoted $890 today at Dick Hannah VW in Vancouver WA. Not gonna happen

Cincy_TDI August 27th, 2014 07:02

at 33K and have VCDS Micro Can so going to do my own 40K service.

so the IdParts 40K kit has base options like the Liguid Molly TopTec or Mobil, Penzoil or Castrol on the oil. Some add additional costs just like with the DSG fluid.

Is the basic add on items enough or are people purchasing the up charged items.
Basically looking for recommendations for the items that others have used.

Rico567 August 27th, 2014 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cincy_TDI (Post 4602482)
at 33K and have VCDS Micro Can so going to do my own 40K service.

so the IdParts 40K kit has base options like the Liguid Molly TopTec or Mobil, Penzoil or Castrol on the oil. Some add additional costs just like with the DSG fluid.

Is the basic add on items enough or are people purchasing the up charged items.
Basically looking for recommendations for the items that others have used.

Some of those lubricants do cost more, depending on the brand. But, in the case of the engine oil, most of the people on this forum who seem to know what they're talking about say that there's so little wiggle room in the 507.00 oil spec that they have to all be about the same. So it comes down to personal preference, or just choose the cheapest brand. Our local dealer, like most, uses the Castrol LL03 oil, and if you buy it across the counter it's only $9 / liter, which isn't all that bad for this oil. When I start doing my own changes, I may just stick with that.

JonLla84 August 27th, 2014 22:03

So, even thought I just hit 1000 miles on my new 14 tdi passat, I'm already trying to learn as much as i can about the diesel maintenance...

Why is it that I've read some dealers in some states quoting 500ish and other see 800ish dollars for the 40k service?

Shouldn't it just be a set price based off work performed? or is it the hourly rates that vary?

Cincy_TDI August 28th, 2014 05:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonLla84 (Post 4603156)
So, even thought I just hit 1000 miles on my new 14 tdi passat, I'm already trying to learn as much as i can about the diesel maintenance...

Why is it that I've read some dealers in some states quoting 500ish and other see 800ish dollars for the 40k service?

Shouldn't it just be a set price based off work performed? or is it the hourly rates that vary?

mine quoted almost $800 but they gave me free oil changes for life with my purchase. They said they would take that off the price which would have put me at $700.

Used Micro Can from forum, 190
40K kit is on sale today at IDparts for $179, I added a few extras I needed so with shipping it was $245.

So I am saving a few hundred bucks and the overall charge can be cheaper now since I don't have to buy VCDS each time.

jck66 August 28th, 2014 07:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonLla84 (Post 4603156)
Why is it that I've read some dealers in some states quoting 500ish and other see 800ish dollars for the 40k service?

Shouldn't it just be a set price based off work performed? or is it the hourly rates that vary?

There may be a significant difference in hourly rate depending on where you are. But don't forget that a significant portion of the cost of the 40k service is the DSG service, so I imagine that some of the lower prices we are seeing may be for a manual trans car.

pparks1 August 30th, 2014 23:32

Yeah, my dealer is $351 for the DSG service.

Rico567 August 31st, 2014 05:22

It makes sense to shop around within a reasonable geographic area, but it must be remembered that the varying costs of living as one moves around the country apply to automotive service as well. I wouldn't expect to price out this 40K package the same at a Chicago dealer as I would here downstate. There's going to be a difference just in fuel of 40 cents or so, just to buy it under Cook Co. taxes. Neither would I be willing to drive an inordinate distance just to have it performed.
That being said, there are compromises. We enjoy a getaway in St. Louis, and a good probability for our 40K is to take it 180 miles to Car Doc there and have "Oilhammer" do it, while we get a hotel room for overnight, and take in a ball game or one of the area's many other attractions we enjoy.
Or, as I plan to do at this point, just do the service myself....

bobthefarmer September 2nd, 2014 08:34

I would gladly perform a 40K service for $390 (inclusive of all Filters and fluids) for those in the Memphis and North Mississippi area. This is not that hard of a task. It takes time, but I touch every fluid in the car, Lube, DSG. Fuel Filter, DEF, Wiper Fluid, Doors/Windows/Sunroof Lube, Wash and Vacuum. Anybody with the proper tools (and a VCDS is nice, but unnecessary) and proper inclination and motivation can do this job in four hours or less. I use Lubri-Moly VW Spec Oils and OEM Filters as I purchase kits from Bora-Parts.

bobthefarmer September 2nd, 2014 08:46

Recommended means based on conditions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico567 (Post 4563850)
^^^^^^^^^^

VeeDubTDI wrote: "-Air filter doing it's job-" (+pix)

If you changed that filter at a 20K interval, where do you live? I change the cabin filter in our SAAB 9-5 wagon at the recommended 30K interval, and from the appearance of the filter, it's an exercise in futility. They look as clean coming out as they did going in. I've found a few small leaves and a few windborne seeds (maple, etc.) in there, but that's about it.

I change my cabin filter to improve smell inside the car. It has activated charcoal which takes out exhaust fumes and other pollutants in the air. It all depends on your conditions. It degrades over time and is less effective. So it is not a futile step, but for your comfort. Fuel Filters at 20K intervals is an inexpensive vaccination from many ills, well worth the price (and cost avoidance).

APT September 3rd, 2014 11:28

I paid Marty Bergel to change my engine oil/filter, DSG oil/filter, and fuel filter @ 40k miles a couple weeks ago. Great service, price, and about 2.5h. I ordered the 40k mile kit from ID parts with standard Liquid Moly fluids. I changed the cabin filter myself. :)

Cincy_TDI September 3rd, 2014 12:43

I am about to do the 40K service myself in about 2 weeks. I have all the parts that I purchased from ID Parts the other week when they were on sale. I am going to build my DSG fill line this week. Really how hard can a drain and fill with filters really be? Figured 3-4 hours to do this and save a few dollars as well as know what is going in my vehicle.

My local VW where I purchased my Passat owns or is tied to 3 of the 4 dealerships locally. I don't expect the service cost to vary that much due to this.

Deezil_n_Dachs September 4th, 2014 19:10

I seem to recall someone in another thread mentioned a procedure to be done to the DSG via VCDS after the 40K oil and filter change. It wasn't temp monitoring for the bottom refill method, but rather a sort of recalibration. I've looked for it recently but can't find it again. Does anyone know I'm referring to?

Deezil_n_Dachs September 7th, 2014 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deezil_n_Dachs (Post 4609080)
I seem to recall someone in another thread mentioned a procedure to be done to the DSG via VCDS after the 40K oil and filter change. It wasn't temp monitoring for the bottom refill method, but rather a sort of recalibration. I've looked for it recently but can't find it again. Does anyone know I'm referring to?

Found it...
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index..._%28DSG/02E%29

Cincy_TDI October 4th, 2014 14:07

After getting crazy prices for the 40k service I ordered the kit from ID Parts when it was on sale.

Total time was about 5 hours including greasing the sunroof tracks and cleaning out the inside of the car. Time also included test drive and stopping for fuel.

I will be able to do it faster next time as I know the entire process now. I did do the top fill method, DSG drained out 4.5 liters plus or minus a few drops. Put back The 4.6l to account for the filter as others have recommended.

I had built a DSG service tool for about $40 but once I got into it all figured top fill will do it just nice. I had purchased the $5 funnel as well and was going to be used as part of my bottom fill tool. No problems at all and figured I saved a few hundred bucks. Next time i will end up saving more since I won't have to purchase VCDS again.

It really is easy to do and if you can spare part of a Saturday, can follow directions go for it.

amtun13892 October 29th, 2014 16:08

question regarding DSG service for 40k
 
when I read closely 40k maintenance schedule for 2013 tdi passat model, it said DSG Fluid change is for nonautomatic model tdi. I dont see how often DSG fluid to be changed for automatic tdi model . anyone can comment on this question.

Rico567 October 30th, 2014 04:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by amtun13892 (Post 4651276)
when I read closely 40k maintenance schedule for 2013 tdi passat model, it said DSG Fluid change is for nonautomatic model tdi. I dont see how often DSG fluid to be changed for automatic tdi model . anyone can comment on this question.

DSG fluid / filter change = 40,000 miles, and every 40K thereafter. I don't know of any recommended fluid change for the manual. Our 11 year old SAAB is a 5-speed manual, and there is NO maintenance interval (I changed it at 125K anyway).

atc98002 October 30th, 2014 05:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by amtun13892 (Post 4651276)
when I read closely 40k maintenance schedule for 2013 tdi passat model, it said DSG Fluid change is for nonautomatic model tdi. I dont see how often DSG fluid to be changed for automatic tdi model . anyone can comment on this question.

Remember, the DSG is not considered an automatic transmission. It is an automated manual, hence the wording they use. So the DSG needs the fluid/filter changed every 40k miles.

Fav40 November 30th, 2014 07:15

What's the 30k service go for ?

Deezil_n_Dachs December 24th, 2014 14:14

Finished the 40K service today. Thanks to the posts here in the forum I was well informed about some of the things to watch for. The engine oil filter came out with relative ease, no mess. A small fuel splash when I popped the fuel filter cover plate loose. The disassembly/reassembly needed to change the DSG filter went without a hitch. I did make a mess when I loosened the DSG filter cap though. I'm definitely interested in hearing if anyone's found a way to get the oil drained from it before pulling off. I did the measure/refill method and got 4.5 liters to drain.
Used a turkey baster to remove the fluids that remained in the filter housings. It worked quite well.
I'm going to make a list of all the torgue values needed, as well as the wrench/socket sizes required. That'll help next time.
The entire service took some time, but I feel it's thorough.
I'm glad I had two jacks to use while rotating the tires.

Deezil_n_Dachs December 27th, 2014 19:27

40,000 mile tdi w/dsg service tools and torques
 
I've compiled a list of the tools, their sizes and the torgue recommended for most of the fasteners that are used in performing the 40K miles service. I've searched and feel confident in the accuracy of what's listed, but free to make call out anything that needs corrected.
If you have the Dieselgeek skid plate:
-30mm or 1-3/16 socket - 50 ftlb
-M8 triple square socket - 18 ftlb
Plastic belly pan:
-T25 Torx
-T45 Torx (these aren't used with the Dieselgeek plate)
Engine oil change:
-Drain plug - 19mm or 3/4" socket - 22 ftlb
-Plastic wire harness guide - T30 Torx
-Coolant tubing - T30 Torx
-Oil filter cap - 32mm or 1-1/4" socket - 18.4 ftlb
Fuel filter cap:
-T20 Torx
Air filter housing:
-T25 Torx
-5mm allen wrench
-12" channel locks
Battery:
-Cable clamps - 10mm
-Hold down clamp - 13mm socket
-Shelf - 10mm socket
DSG fluid change:
-Drain plug - 14mm allen wrench or socket - 33 ftlb
(I had a 5/8" allen wrench, and I cut 2" from the long end. I filed the flats just a bit and it fit very well)
-Snorkle - 8mm allen - 2.5 ftlb
-Filter cap - 24mm or 15/16" socket - 15 ftlb
Tire rotation:
-Lugbolts - 17mm or 11/16 deepwell socket - 103 ftlb
Diesel exhaust fluid:
-Adblue bottle from the dealer
Hope you find this useful!

Skoal January 2nd, 2015 22:00

40K service with 23N5 recall
 
I just had my 20k service at my VW shop they also did a recall 23N5. My concern is that now my Passat smells of diesel when I start it and my garage has that diesel smell (no leaks). The car never smelt like this prior to the service. The dealership said to bring it by for a looksee but they are 2 hours round trip not to mention I'll have to take the day off work to do this.
Has anyone else had this happen? :confused:

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VeeDubTDI January 2nd, 2015 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skoal (Post 4703186)
I just had my 40k service at my VW shop they also did a recall 23N5. My concern is that now my Passat smells of diesel when I start it and my garage has that diesel smell (no leaks). The car never smelt like this prior to the service. The dealership said to bring it by for a looksee but they are 2 hours round trip not to mention I'll have to take the day off work to do this.
Has anyone else had this happen? :confused:


They probably spilled diesel fuel when they changed the fuel filter. Check the area on and around the fuel filter housing for wetness and wipe it off with a rag. If there are any active leaks, you may need to take the car back to have it corrected.

Skoal January 2nd, 2015 22:38

I will do that, thank you.

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